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Hatsan AT44-10

Hatsan AT44-10

Turkish gun manufacturers Hatsan have a long history in producing shotguns and spring powered air rifles. A large selection of these are imported into the UK by Edgar Brothers, so no surprises that they’ve taken it upon themselves to bring in Hatsan’s first precharged pneumatic (PCP) air rifle.

On first inspection you can’t fail to notice quite a few familiar features now seen on established air rifles which I’ll detail as we come to them. However, largely due to the stock design it does have a character of its own and during testing I certainly warmed to the overall format.

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Hatsan has chosen to go with the synthetic trend now quite literally taking over on many air rifles. I’ve no qualms with that, as a lot of thought has obviously gone into the stock design and personally I was pleased to see both a thumbhole and adjustable sliding rubber butt pad flanking the angular fully ambidextrous medium height cheekpiece.

Chequering is impregnated into the moulding at the grip but fluting is used along the top edge of the forend, which is very comfortable to hold due to the generously rounded profile and thickset rear section. There does seem to be a lot of air reservoir on this rifle but you’d be wrong in thinking this translates into the rifle having a large shot capacity. Charging is via a quick fill push in probe via an inlet at the front of the reservoir and a 190-bar fill gives approximately 50 full power shots, with approximately 40 in .177 calibre.

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I didn’t realise it at the time but this was only the start of me discovering some ‘strange’ traits and features of the rifle. One not so strange was the air gauge positioned at the very front of the air reservoir. Incidentally, the air reservoir is removable should you want to take a spare, and if going on a longish lamping session or feral pigeon cull you just might be glad you have one ready to replace the original.

The action is very familiar in layout reminding me of a cross between the HW100 due to the side-lever cocking whilst the 10-shot removable steel magazine just screamed Webley Raider 10. I make no apologies for making these comparisons especially as the ‘lever’ cocking action and magazine system work so well together. It was while loading up I started to realise that the rifle’s action had some very familiar features, although it also has some creditable ones of its own. The first is the magazine’s ball ended brass retaining pin. To remove the magazine you first need to pull back the side-lever, then push forward the magazine retaining pin. As I’m so used to these types of systems forcibly ejecting magazines out - to be lost or get covered in dirt as they hit the deck - imagine my surprise when I pushed forward the spring tensioned retainer to discover it locks forward to allow the magazine to be lifted out of the right hand side of the raised action block. There is a slight ‘ejection’ but such are the high tolerances of engineering I found if you tilted the rifle slightly to the left the magazine would stay in its housing. This made me look more closely at the visible mechanical parts of the rifle and I was impressed at the standard of workmanship that had obviously gone into making them.

Once the steel magazine is removed, you place a pellet into each of the 10 chambers and then replace it back into its housing, pulling back the retaining pin then pushing forward the side-lever. The rifle’s now cocked and loaded (the trigger safety will have automatically engaged on pulling back the side-lever). This trigger safety is familiar looking, as it’s the spit of the pop out style seen on the Webley Blackhawk, right down to the ribbing on the top and when pushed in to disengage a red dot is visible through a hole in the air reservoir end cap. It can also be re-set manually if you don’t take a shot by simply pulling it back. The 2-stage adjustable trigger unit is quite classy looking due to the nicely curved and gold anodised blade. The trigger has a few interesting features and is better designed than you might first suppose, so it’s not all looks but precise as well. The trigger can be externally adjusted for both first and second stage length of pull, but to adjust the ‘release’ pressure adjustment the action needs to be removed from the stock.

The action block is quite wide and lengthy, so Hatsan have made full use of this and machined not one but two sets of full-length scope rails. Apparently one dovetail is to accommodate standard airgun mounts while the other accepts 22mm mounts – must be a Turkish thing! So no problems mounting this rifle with a lengthy scope or getting spot on eye-relief, and thanks to that sliding adjustable butt pad a precise head position is guaranteed for optimum gun control.

I opted to fit an AGS 3-12 X 44 Mini SWAT on the rear section of the generous scope rail and as the muzzle is threaded ½” UNF I spun a Logun CCFC carbon fibre silencer upfront which sent the rifle to 44.5” in overall length. At this stage balance and handling all seemed to be working nicely, the stock now tailored to my preference, and I was ready to set zero.

Though the 19.5” barrel is free floating and has a support band towards the front of the stock the first few brands of quality ammo I used just wouldn’t group. Initially, in my opinion I presumed the AT44-10 overly pellet fussy. However, I discovered a strange trait while trying to set zero. I’d fire through a magazine, then using the same ammo fire another ten shot string and the group would be different – either tighter or very bad. When I found pellets that did group such as Air Arms Field and Daystate FT, I noticed my best groups at my set 25-yd zero being sub-one-inch where due to me seating the pellets into the magazine in a specific way. I’ve heard of a barrel being pellet fussy but never a magazine being ‘loading’ fussy. Seems you need to seat them as flush as possible to the rear but obviously not protruding at the front or back. Also this magazine preferred longer pellets. With a silencer upfront muzzle report is very low, accuracy is acceptable once you sort the loading and ammo but the handling and design of the stock and attention to detail of the metalwork and action are in my opinion what make this rifle a Turkish Delight! 

PRICE: £450 including two magazines

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  • Model: Hatsan AT44-10
  • Type: Lever-action, Multi-Shot PCP
  • Magazine: 10 shot rotary
  • Calibre: .22 on test .177 available
  • Stock: Synthetic thumbhole sporter
  • Sights: Not fitted, but action grooved for scope mounting
  • Barrel: 19.5”

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  • I just wanted to "Chime" in, and say that out of the 25 or so Air-Rifles I have, ranging from Break barrels to Pumper's, to Pnematics, Co2, etc,. that the 3 PCP's I own are all Hatsan AT-44's The first one purchased was the AT-44 .22 Pump Action, which has an Aimpoint Comp M2 R/Dot on it , I strictly use for "Bush" hunting for Rabbit & Grouse, is Extremely suited for it's Role, The second AT-44 is the "tact"10-22, That I mostly use for Jack Rabbits at distances over 150 meters, which is Very Easy when it's equipped w/ the "Right" hardware, being a Carl Zeiss 3-9X40 scope sitting on Fully Adjustable "Sportsmatch" rings that allow me to make those Precision Long-Distance shots, and lastly my AT-44S in .25 which I use as an Intermediate Gun for distances up to , and over at times of 100 meters, mostly for Large Jacks, and some Predator hunting(Coyotes, Foxes, and the Occasional Pine Martin), and out of the Three is my favourite due to being able to use any length/weight/Brand of Pellet I choose for the situation,,,My furthest confirmed Kill w/ this weapon was 180 meters using "Skenco Black Max Lead-Free Pellets" @ 32gr,. They are an EXTREMLY Accurate round for Distance, and simply the Longest, most Stable Flying round I've ever used(It flies like a "spiral" thrown by Joe Namath,LOL), http://www.pyramydair.com/s/p/Skenco_Black_Max_Lead_Free_Pellets_25_Cal_32_40_Grains_Domed_50ct/1178 , I highly RECOMMEND this round for any quarter-bore shooters out there, they are Fantastic!!!Even though I own quite a few "Top-of-the-Line" Break Barrels that are within the same Power/Performance range as the AT's, They don't even come close for those Distance shot's, with the exception of 2 that I had Performance Tunes done to them. Firstly one of my Cometa's, a .22 Fusion Premier which puts out 32 ft/lbs and is extremely accurate depending on your choice of ammo, and the 2nd being a Performance Tuned Crosman Nitro Venom, which puts out about 30 ft/lbs, and though not as accurate as the Cometa at Distance is very well suited for ranges in and around 150 ft using H&N FTT's w/ a headsize of 5.55mm,,,But Nothing compares to my AT's, and the NUMBER 1 Reason these guns out class many other PCP's, some double the Price is the ability to just use/carry spare Fully charged cylinders, instead of being "Tethered" to a Pump, or Buddy Bottle, etc,. I can go a whole weekend w/out having to worry if I have enough Air, or Not!!! having to count my shots when I'm in the field for Fear of Running out of Air at an Inoppurtune moment, I just pullout another cylinder from my ruck and I'm back in the game in less than 30 seconds, while my buddy is busy pumping his gun back up to pressure, or Worse having to run back to his vehicle to use his Scuba tank. Cheer's Andy.

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    Andrew Santi
    20 Jul 2016 at 11:52 AM
  • Is there a kit for this Hatsan AT44-10 to take it more towards the 12ft lb maximum??
    I think I saw something on YouTube with a guy in Russia fitting it?

    Mr Duke

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    Andrew Duke
    21 Dec 2015 at 12:33 PM
  • My At 44 highs and lows

    I purchased an imaculate but used AT44 x 10 2 years ago, it seems it had all the issues listed above and could not hit a piece of a4 paper at 10 yds. perplexed i poured over many forums and started to try all the tips and tricks that I had found. After many hours of reading and many more modifying I now have a gun that holds its own with any other I have seen. With any modification or upgrade I reccomend start with the warranty if that fails then simple stuff first, pellet choice, try different scope, moderator on off etc.

    If you have a poor shooting at44 i'd reccomend doing these tasks in no paricular order
    1 fit small o ring over the thread of the barrel for the moderator to butt up to
    2. fettle the magazine. pellets should fall in/out easily when oring is removed, try a softer magazine o ring
    3. remove either the front or rear barrel band, I would not reccomend both as the breach looks quite weak where it is milled out for the magazine, and this may fail with a floating barrel.
    4, Install a regulator
    5. fit a sleave over magazine retaining pin
    6. fit a sleave on the pellet probe and shim its mechenism
    7. fettle the magazine rotating sears, (mine were poorly made and had worn about 1/2 a mm of the breach away) coat with grease before refitting
    8. fettle the hammer and deburr along its travel. re grease
    9. Chrono and adjust the hammer spring to your desired power level or legal limit
    10.enjoy your Turkish Delight

    I get 10 shot groups 5p sized at 35 yds using accupel's, with the odd flyer here and there that may be me or may be the gun.
    I would definitly buy another Hatsan but would do so knowing that it probably is going to need some work. if anyone needs help with theirs, let me know. hope this helps

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    aaran
    12 Dec 2015 at 10:04 PM
  • Really impressed,hatsan range .

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    john amess
    25 Sep 2015 at 02:24 PM
  • Got your reply about my hatsan at44 10 ,think its a power problem, wen I attach the hose to fill it it hisses a bit and makes a strange sound to and the adapter is fully understand in too ,also what does chronographing mean .

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    Les smith
    18 Aug 2015 at 05:36 PM
  • By Andrew from Canada on 2013-04-12 02:53:11
    Things I liked:I've had the .22 model of this a/g for a while, and its great, I've alway's been into springers,and this is my first venture into pcp, What a difference, Coming from a host of top of the line springer's, (Cometa Fusion Premier.22, as one example)This blows it away. I'm getting close to 1000fps with H&N FTT 5.54mm(16-gr,.),and with 9gr Prometheus Hunters,I get close to 1140fps, and thats with deadly accuracy, Accurate enough to knock off a 25pd Racoon 75ft up a Pine Tree, and it was dead before it hit the ground with a head shot!. If you hunt with your a/g's, then this is your gun, after you get used to the shooting cycle, You'll be squeezing them off like Chuck Conners, But seriously, This gun is awesome!, Very easy to get your line of sight, and you keep it, even going through the pumping cycle, It's a polymer stock, but it's rock hard, not like the plastic Crosman Uses (Crosman M4177, as an example). Choosing the right ammo for this shooter may be a challenge, I've found that alot of my favourite pellets don't cycle well, It's a shame, I really like hunting with Skenco Metal-Tipped Ultra Mag's, but they're just too long, As with most of the point's in my arsenal, I However, I did find it shot excellent with H&N SilverPonts(17.10gr,.) In domes, the only pellet that was a little too long was H&N Baracuda's, Hunters, H&N Field Targets, Silouette's, FTT, FTT Power, Gamo Pro Hunters/Hunters, AirArms FX SmoothTwist pellets all performed well and left everything in the black @ 20M
    Things I would have changed:The weight!,,It's a heavy gun, and w/ that kind of heft, It should come with factory swivels, a shot-gun sling will be hard to place on this gun due to it's configuration.Any swivel attachment should be done professionally. Also, Magazine placement should be more internal, Too much of it is sticking out, and makes scope placement problematic.
    What others should know:Finding Optic's for this Beast may become a problem, If you plan on using a standard scope, You're going to need high mounts, and an Objective of Less of than 40mm, a Red-Dot may do the trick, but the rail's are a tad too thick for any Q/D type of mount. I put a JGBG M8 3.5X40 I/R, Integrated Laser on mine, and it fit's just right, and performs Extremely well with this gun, and doesn't add alot of weight.Get yourself extra magazines, I found that 6, will get you through all of your gun's power shots per fill-up, I also sprung for an extra air cylinder, tossed in my rucksuck, provides me with me more than enough air for a day in the field. Once you get used to this gun, It should become the pinnacle of your collection, It's very well built,a fantastic trigger, This gun should provide you with years of good shooting/Hunting. Chher's, and Happy Huntin', Andy.

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    Andrew Santi
    01 Mar 2015 at 04:22 PM
  • Guys
    The air cylinder of Hatsan BT65 series (255cc) can fit on Hatsan AT44-10 series or not????
    If it can fit wht will be the improvment??

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    Ahmed Fawzy
    01 Mar 2015 at 07:01 AM
  • iti is very best pcp with low cost please see this pic for my custom design
    http://www.iran-airrifle.com/uploadcenter/uploads/14002377031.jpg

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    ham
    25 May 2014 at 07:31 PM
  • iti is very best pcp with low cost please see this pic for my custom design
    http://www.iran-airrifle.com/uploadcenter/uploads/14002377031.jpg

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    ham
    25 May 2014 at 07:13 PM
  • I have 2 Hatsan PCP's, The AT-44,.22 P/A, and the AT-44"tact"1022, and I must say that these guns will leave you in AWE, They are incredibly accurate, Using a Bi-Pod, and sand bags, I can get sub-3.75" groupings at distances up to and exceeding 100meters, The AT series magazines seem ok on the outside, you would assume it can take lengthy rounds, but since the rear is "recessed", and all pellets need to sit flush, Trying to find the "right" pellet may be challenging, especially if your pellet choice consists of anything more than Crosman, or Daisy. I believe I've found the perfect pellet for this gun(s), The "FX SmoothTwist" pellets @ 16 & 18gr,., I use the 16gr pellet for distances under 60 meters, and the 18's for distances up to 100 meters, It truly is a shame I can't use my favourite "Hunting" ammo, being Skenco Metal-Tipped "Ultra-Mag's" @ 18gr, They're "ShowStopper's", Another pellet that gave me excellent groupings at upwards of 75 meters was the H&N Field Target Trophy w/ a head size of 5.55mm, Now this combination produces "One Ragged Hole" targets at distances of 45 meters, FTT's w/ a head size of 5.50-5.54mm still group fine, but If you like seeing One-Holers like I do, then you should seriously try them out.The Pump Action is a beast to carry in the field, and since there are no "swivels", but I have a "Butler Creek" shot-gun sling, it's a tight fit, but it works. The "tact" comes w/ factory installed swivels, and a sling, which was a nice touch, it's not padded, so I immediately had it changed to something a little more comfortable, Between the both of them I have 6 air cylinders, 4 full-power, and 2 sub-500fps for target shooting(120 shot count, and still powerful enough for vermin control), when I go hunting, I just toss a spare cylinder into my ruck, and I'll have more than enough air for a day in the field..These guns are capable of great things,,,Look for Good Reviews that truly show the weapons potential, not some nut w/ a sub-12ft/lb rifle, who finds nothing but fault with it,,Cheer's, Andy.

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    Andy
    29 Jan 2014 at 09:13 PM
  • I have 2 Hatsan PCP's, The AT-44,.22 P/A, and the AT-44"tact"1022, and I must say that these guns will leave you in AWE, They are incredibly accurate, Using a Bi-Pod, and sand bags, I can get sub-3.75" groupings at distances up to and exceeding 100meters, The AT series magazines seem ok on the outside, you would assume it can take lengthy rounds, but since the rear is "recessed", and all pellets need to sit flush, Trying to find the "right" pellet may be challenging, especially if your pellet choice consists of anything more than Crosman, or Daisy. I believe I've found the perfect pellet for this gun(s), The "FX SmoothTwist" pellets @ 16 & 18gr,., I use the 16gr pellet for distances under 60 meters, and the 18's for distances up to 100 meters, It truly is a shame I can't use my favourite "Hunting" ammo, being Skenco Metal-Tipped "Ultra-Mag's" @ 18gr, They're "ShowStopper's", Another pellet that gave me excellent groupings at upwards of 75 meters was the H&N Field Target Trophy w/ a head size of 5.55mm, Now this combination produces "One Ragged Hole" targets at distances of 45 meters, FTT's w/ a head size of 5.50-5.54mm still group fine, but If you like seeing One-Holers like I do, then you should seriously try them out.The Pump Action is a beast to carry in the field, and since there are no "swivels", but I have a "Butler Creek" shot-gun sling, it's a tight fit, but it works. The "tact" comes w/ factory installed swivels, and a sling, which was a nice touch, it's not padded, so I immediately had it changed to something a little more comfortable, Between the both of them I have 6 air cylinders, 4 full-power, and 2 sub-500fps for target shooting(120 shot count, and still powerful enough for vermin control), when I go hunting, I just toss a spare cylinder into my ruck, and I'll have more than enough air for a day in the field..These guns are capable of great things,,,Look for Good Reviews that truly show the weapons potential, not some nut w/ a sub-12ft/lb rifle, who finds nothing but fault with it,,Cheer's, Andy.

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    Andy
    29 Jan 2014 at 08:31 PM
  • I've owned my Hatsan AT44 P/A .22 for quite a while now, long enough to give this gun a good review. This gun's a Beast! coming in at close to 10pd's w/ a full cylinder, scope, and with that kind of heft this gun should come equipped with FACTORY installed swivel's, Toting this gun around for a day in the field will truly make you Bust a Nut!, and due to it's configuration, attempting to install any on your own is next to impossible, So, That leaves you with a shot-gun sling, or nothing, Again, Due to it's configuration, It's a tight fit, but still feasible. I have a padded "Butler Creek" sling on mine and it's doing well. Next, It's performance. Before my gun arrived I was excited, and from reviews I've read, expecting a great shooter, Until I tried loading some of my favourite ammo, almost all of my heavy-hitter's were too long for this gun's shallow magazines, especially my favourite Rabbit Ammo, Skenco "Metal-Tipped" Ultra-Mag's, even H&N Baracuda round's are too long, and forget about using point's unless they're stubbies, H&N SilverPoint's fit well and at 17.10gr they should do well, but they seem to corkscrew their way to the target, Jumbo Stratons fit the mag's, and do well upwards of 40-50M, But I've found that through testing about 25 different weights, brand's, pellet shape, etc, That "FX Smooth-Twist" pellets @ 16gr, came out on top, beating out every other pellet for accuracy, both close and at distance. I've also opted for using the "air-stripper" as well, It does improve your accuracy over distance. Mounting Your Favourite Optic's are going to be a challenge, Again, This gun's configuration will not let you mount your choice of scope/ring's. I've had to settle for a Compact "JGBG M8 3.5-10X40 I.R./Integrated Laser on mine, It does well, and doesn't add too much weight to the gun, Optically clear edge to edge, but w/out an A/O, you tend to get a "fish-Eye" effect at higher magnification.The barrel is "Cold-Hammered" Ordnance grade steel, Not Lothar Walther but damn close, at 10-20M, I can stack rounds one on top of the other, It's that accurate, and the Iron Sight's are fully adjustable both front and rear. There are two different types of cylinders available for this model, a reduced velocity, and full power models.W/ the 500fps cylinder I get roughly 100 power shots, and 60-70 with the 970fps cylinder. having 2 cylinders ensures me that I have more than enough air for a day in the field.Anyway's, i hope you enjoy the review, and good Huntin'. Cheer's, Andy.

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    Andrew S
    28 Jul 2013 at 06:26 PM
  • I have the AT44 P/A(Pump Action)Things I liked:I've had the .22 model of this a/g for a while, and its great, I've alway's been into springers,and this is my first venture into pcp, What a difference, Coming from a host of top of the line springer's, (Cometa Fusion Premier.22, as one example)This blows it away. I'm getting close to 1000fps with H&N FTT 5.54mm(16-gr,.),and with 9gr Prometheus Hunters,I get close to 1140fps, and thats with deadly accuracy, Accurate enough to knock off a 25pd Racoon 75ft up a Pine Tree, and it was dead before it hit the ground with a head shot!. If you hunt with your a/g's, then this is your gun, after you get used to the shooting cycle, You'll be squeezing them off like Chuck Conners, But seriously, This gun is awesome!, Very easy to get your line of sight, and you keep it, even going through the pumping cycle, It's a polymer stock, but it's rock hard, not like the plastic Crosman Uses (Crosman M4177, as an example). Choosing the right ammo for this shooter may be a challenge, I've found that alot of my favourite pellets don't cycle well, It's a shame, I really like hunting with Skenco Metal-Tipped Ultra Mag's, but they're just too long, As with most of the point's in my arsenal, I However, I did find it shot excellent with H&N SilverPonts(17.10gr,.) In domes, the only pellet that was a little too long was H&N Baracuda's, Hunters, H&N Field Targets, Silouette's, FTT, FTT Power, Gamo Pro Hunters/Hunters, AirArms FX SmoothTwist pellets all performed well and left everything in the black @ 20M
    Things I would have changed:The weight!,,It's a heavy gun, and w/ that kind of heft, It should come with factory swivels, a shot-gun sling will be hard to place on this gun due to it's configuration.Any swivel attachment should be done professionally. Also, Magazine placement should be more internal, Too much of it is sticking out, and makes scope placement problematic.
    What others should know:Finding Optic's for this Beast may become a problem, If you plan on using a standard scope, You're going to need high mounts, and an Objective of Less of than 40mm, a Red-Dot may do the trick, but the rail's are a tad too thick for any Q/D type of mount. I put a JGBG M8 3.5X40 I/R, Integrated Laser on mine, and it fit's just right, and performs Extremely well with this gun, and doesn't add alot of weight.Get yourself extra magazines, I found that 6, will get you through all of your gun's power shots per fill-up, I also sprung for an extra air cylinder, tossed in my rucksuck, provides me with me more than enough air for a day in the field. Once you get used to this gun, It should become the pinnacle of your collection, It's very well built,a fantastic trigger, This gun should provide you with years of good shooting/Hunting. Chher's, and Happy Huntin', Andy.

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    Andrew S.
    30 May 2013 at 06:09 AM
  • Things I liked:I've had the .22 model of this a/g for a while, and its great, I've alway's been into springers,and this is my first venture into pcp, What a difference, Coming from a host of top of the line springer's, (Cometa Fusion Premier.22, as one example)This blows it away. I'm getting close to 1000fps with H&N FTT 5.54mm(16-gr,.),and with 9gr Prometheus Hunters,I get close to 1140fps, and thats with deadly accuracy, Accurate enough to knock off a 25pd Racoon 75ft up a Pine Tree, and it was dead before it hit the ground with a head shot!. If you hunt with your a/g's, then this is your gun, after you get used to the shooting cycle, You'll be squeezing them off like Chuck Conners, But seriously, This gun is awesome!, Very easy to get your line of sight, and you keep it, even going through the pumping cycle, It's a polymer stock, but it's rock hard, not like the plastic Crosman Uses (Crosman M4177, as an example). Choosing the right ammo for this shooter may be a challenge, I've found that alot of my favourite pellets don't cycle well, It's a shame, I really like hunting with Skenco Metal-Tipped Ultra Mag's, but they're just too long, As with most of the point's in my arsenal, I However, I did find it shot excellent with H&N SilverPonts(17.10gr,.) In domes, the only pellet that was a little too long was H&N Baracuda's, Hunters, H&N Field Targets, Silouette's, FTT, FTT Power, Gamo Pro Hunters/Hunters, AirArms FX SmoothTwist pellets all performed well and left everything in the black @ 20M
    Things I would have changed:The weight!,,It's a heavy gun, and w/ that kind of heft, It should come with factory swivels, a shot-gun sling will be hard to place on this gun due to it's configuration.Any swivel attachment should be done professionally. Also, Magazine placement should be more internal, Too much of it is sticking out, and makes scope placement problematic.
    What others should know:Finding Optic's for this Beast may become a problem, If you plan on using a standard scope, You're going to need high mounts, and an Objective of Less of than 40mm, a Red-Dot may do the trick, but the rail's are a tad too thick for any Q/D type of mount. I put a JGBG M8 3.5X40 I/R, Integrated Laser on mine, and it fit's just right, and performs Extremely well with this gun, and doesn't add alot of weight.Get yourself extra magazines, I found that 6, will get you through all of your gun's power shots per fill-up, I also sprung for an extra air cylinder, tossed in my rucksuck, provides me with me more than enough air for a day in the field. Once you get used to this gun, It should become the pinnacle of your collection, It's very well built,a fantastic trigger, This gun should provide you with years of good shooting/Hunting. Chher's, and Happy Huntin', Andy.

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    Andrew S.
    29 May 2013 at 11:34 PM
  • we bought the hatsan at44-10 about three years ago but after two months the cylinder and pump started to act up and refused to hold pressure. we took it back and were told it would be ordered. since that time I have been to three different suppliers in the hopes of finding a replacement cylinder and pump but with no luck. We paid quite a lot of money for this gun but cannot find replacement parts for it anywhere. what is the use? if anyone knows where I can locate a new cylinder and pump , please contact me at kerrydejonge@telkomsa.net.

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    kerry candice
    07 May 2013 at 04:13 AM
  • I bought the .177 version but it's a very load gun, where can I get a shroud to shut it down a notch?

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    Miguel Diaz
    16 Apr 2013 at 10:56 PM
  • Hi all,
    I too had accuracy problems with my new AT44.
    To cut a long story short I did all the testing and swapping I could and determined the reason for the very poor groupings was the silencer I had fitted (Swift made in UK). After investigating I could see that the muzzle has an O ring fitted and the Swift silencer does not pass over it ! I opened up the silencer and found minute clippings from where the pellets had clipped the internal baffles of the silencer ! Clearly the silencer was not seated squarely on the barrel.
    When I bought the rifle I had the opportunity to have a Webley QGS silencer fitted (same as Hatsan) but upgraded to the Swift. Now, the Swift (and many others silencers) when screwed on will not pass over the O ring because there is a fine shoulder which prevents the other silencers passing over it. Now, the QGS silencer which is made for the Hatsan AT44 and Webley Raider has a different fitting which allows the silencer to pass over the shoulder and seat over the O ring, thus keeping the silencer square to the barrel - result. groups (with the QGS) 30 mm (3/4") at 30 yards and I expect the groups the improve further when I become familiar with the rifle.
    So, either do not use a silencer or fit a genuine Hatsan or Webley silencer.. I feel so much better now.
    As for pellets - use JSB or Air Arm diablo.
    Enjoy.

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    Deep thought.
    03 Feb 2013 at 09:52 AM
  • Check out Hatsan uk forum, for you hatsan owners

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    ANDREW
    31 Oct 2012 at 07:46 PM
  • For Willy Willox
    When my cylinder leaked air, it was replaced by Hatsan directly. I would consider contacting them. Mine was very new and they did not dispute the problem. It did not come with a manual and I can offer no advice on how to change the O rings. I had 3 cylinders fail on me in month and was considering a different gun altogether. But the replacment cylinder was a newer version and has shot 1000+ pellets with no problems.
    I use Air Arms Diablo Field .22 cal 16 Grains, which will group at 40 metres to about 3 mm, I do use a bipod though. I have found that round tipped pellets are more acurate than others and removing the suppressor makes no difference to my Hatsan AT44-10. Not much advice but I hope this helps.
    Jonathan

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    Jonathan Langley
    15 Sep 2012 at 06:36 PM
  • Hi , Am also battling to get a tight grouping.
    Am going to get the 10gr plus pellet from Kings in Durban.
    Would anyone out there suggest another pellet .
    Specifically need to eradicate small vermin (brain kills only)

    Also have another problem, when I tried to top up from the dive tank, there was a popping sound and then the sound of escaping air.

    When I removed the air cylinder from the rifle I was able to get 150 bars.
    When re fitted to the rifle the 150 bars dropped slowly??
    I am hoping to be able to get advice on how to remedy the fault.
    I should imagine new 0 rings ??
    I would like to know where the 0 rings may be bought and if there is a manual to show the proceedure on fitting?
    Any help would be appreciated.
    Thanks , Willy Willox

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    Willy Willox
    15 Sep 2012 at 03:35 PM
  • http://www.nzairgunners.com/nzairgunforum/showthread.php?t=11788

    This link sets out the trouble I've had with my rifle, how some have been overcome and and how the rest are being addressed by the manufacture of new, properly sized parts.

    GrahamA NZ

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    Graham Allardice
    06 Aug 2012 at 10:36 PM
  • Just for information

    I bought a Hatsan AT44-10 about spring time, and within a month I had three cylinders fail on me (one failed in the gun shop). A phone call to Edgar Bros. Managing Director to explain, and bingo, a new version cylinder arrived a week later. So far no problems with the new one. I was tempted to ask for a full refund, but the gun seems otherwise well built and is constently accurate. I use a hand pump to fill my cylinder and although my arms get a bit achy, it saves lots of money.

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    Jonathan Langley
    06 Aug 2012 at 09:56 PM
  • If the power limit is unlimited as here in Bulgaria the power levels on your guns will be way over the uk limit.
    I had the AT44 in .22 and when chronyed it recorded 33 ft.lb....I have the Sniper 125 in .22 and that records just over 29 ft/lb,so I'm afraid as said,if you haven't got an fac,your up the creek,so to speak.

    Steve

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    Steven Manderville
    04 Apr 2012 at 07:10 PM
  • As even a lightweight .177 pellet would only be doing around 800fps to achieve the UK legal limit of 12ft/lbs muzzle energy, I would say that your AT44 and mod125 are both well over the top for the UK and you would need an FAC for them.

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    pat farey
    04 Apr 2012 at 06:42 PM
  • I live in Kuwait as a British expat I have an AT44-10 and a mod125, the mod125 has a muzzle velocity of 1250fps I am told the AT44 is 1090fps,
    So can I bring them back to the uk with me? I have no way of chronographing.
    Must say they are good rifles although a tad on the heavy side but practice helps .
    I do have a few issues with the odd stray and have given up any hope of using my moderator it all goes pants as soon as I fit it.
    Many thanks for any. Advice

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    Derron Tume
    04 Apr 2012 at 06:20 PM
  • hatsan at 44/10 rubbish bought new now 4 months old been back to shop 5 times,will not hold air,then cant charge.waiting for replacment gun of different make

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    m.lake
    28 Mar 2012 at 01:46 PM
  • I HAVE FOUND THAT AIR ARMS DIABLO FIELD PELLETS WORK PERFECTLY. I THINK THIS MAY BE DUE TO THE SKIRT ON THE PELLETS BEING QUITE SOFT THUS ALLOWING THEM TO SEAT BETTER IN THE MAGAZINE.

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    john H
    24 Mar 2012 at 02:26 PM
  • i have a hatsan 44-10 and i would like to change the synthetic stock for a wooden one , has anyone got any ideas, cheers Art

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    Arthur
    14 Mar 2012 at 11:11 AM
  • bonsoir,que pensez vous du hatsan bt 65?merci des critiques ,ou bonnes impressions.son prix approximatif, merci a bientot.

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    DELHAYE
    03 Feb 2012 at 08:52 PM
  • hi paul,just reading your comments of the saga of your supressor and thought i would just add this,i bought a new version a/a tdr410 in 177 this xmas,having owned alot of a/a rifles in the past have allways had good times with them untill now,my TDR was set up with a leapers 3x12x50 scope,and i spent a whole day trying to zero it without success..long story made short i found that the gun was fine with no silencer,but as soon as the a/a suplied unit was fitted it all went pear shape.accuracy went but the big discovery was power dropped down to make shots go astray..as soon as the unit went back on..gun went back to shop and problem was never cured???gave up in the end and changed it for a 400 lite..which blew up in me face..ho-hum,i have given up with A/A rifles for a while..going to give a hatsan at44 a go now..what the hey..eh..k..

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    kym
    24 Jan 2012 at 09:59 PM
  • Hi all

    Just wanted to close the loop on this one. Thanks to all who commented and for the advice.

    I have now got the rifle at the gunshop as Edgar Bros mentioned that they think it is a "bent barrel"! nothing worse grin

    I have not had the rifle back yet but in terms of service, Edgar Bros were very good, have already sent a new barrel out.

    Will let you all know when this is finally sorted and if I can then shoot straight.

    Just wonder if Edgar Bros have solved an issue for our lads and girls in service? Have they managed a gun that can fire round corners! wink

    Safe shooting all.

    P

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    Paul
    17 Jan 2012 at 04:56 PM
  • @pat farey exactly.try to pass a pellet through the barrel (using a strong brass wire) from the breech to the muzzle and feel the smoothness of the pellet travelling through until it goes out.take note if there is any resistance at the muzzle.if there is, it needs recrowning...but your problem is not the crown but your silencer or the power of the air pressure coming out.check your hammer spring and lightened it.

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    nathoi
    14 Jan 2012 at 11:49 AM
  • If the muzzle is not cross threaded, it is almost certainly out of line at the time of manufacture.The thread only needs to be marginally out to cause fliers. The other possibility is a poor muzzle crown.

    Also try nathoi's advise re: chronoing with and without a suppressor.

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    pat farey
    12 Jan 2012 at 04:54 PM
  • @Steven Manderville. i guess your problem is the pressure coming out of the suppressor which affects the flight of the pellet.try to chrony test your gun with and without the suppressor and see the velocity of the pellet.if ever there's a big difference, perhaps your rifle needs a shorter suppressor.try also some other pellet brand and check its groupings with the suppressor on.as what i've learned, pcp loves a heavier pellet(in .22cal 15gr above is preferable).a lighter pellet tends to swirl in its flight especially above 800fps.most airguns love JSB's line of pellets.

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    nathoi
    12 Jan 2012 at 03:03 PM
  • Pat

    Thanks for the reply. I am thinking the same. I have tried with a torch and can't see anything immediately, but, and I think I am answering my own question here, I got some RWS wadcutters and without the supp, as normal, good clean holes you could score, and with the supp, it rips the paper and almost looks like it is going through spinning widly off centre or even sideways!

    As I have only had the rifle for less than 6 months, I will take it back to the Gunsmiths to have it sorted who will no doubt have it shipped to Edgar Bros. I consider this to be a manufacturing fault if the threads are out, would you say I am right? I don't want to make a fool of myself if it is something I could have caused.

    Thanks again for the reply.

    Paul

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    Paul
    11 Jan 2012 at 06:36 PM
  • As you have had problems with more than one moderator, this would suggest a problem with the screw thread on the rifle's muzzle. Remove the current moderator shine a light through it - check for pellet impact damage, lead smears etc, especially around the inside of the moderator's muzzle.

    If it is a threading problem, the only way around it is to have it re-threaded correctly.

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    pat farey
    11 Jan 2012 at 03:18 PM
  • Hi all

    A while ago, I got myself a new AT44-10. Really impressed with it to a point !! Without a suppressor, grouping spot on and with a Hawke 2-9*50 on, I am happy huntin feral upto about 40-50m.

    HOWEVER..... and it is a big however, with the supp on, the zero goes out the window. No grouping and with the supp on it does seem to "spray" rather than group differently.

    I saw a post on here with a similar problem and two supp's. I'm on my second now and still it does the same. The gunsmith (at no extra cost and excellent service I think) gave me an upgraded walther supp. Still the same so I am thinking it is the thread on the barrel. I am thinking this as without, the grouping is spot on so (maybe wrong here) discounting the barrel.

    Did the replacement or repair work? Does anybody have similar problems?

    Thanks in advance for any help.

    Cheers

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    Paul
    10 Jan 2012 at 10:20 PM
  • Just seen the advert on this page from Edgar Brothers for the Hatsan Sniper,price 235 quid,wowwwwwwww.
    I live in Bulgaria and it's on sale here at most gun shops for 128 quid at todays exchange rates.WHAT A RIP OFF.
    I bought one about 3 mths ago 29fpe,no restrictions over here

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    Steven Manderville
    16 Nov 2011 at 03:39 PM
  • Pat

    Would you mind if I could contact you regarding this gun and some tips perhaps? I am opting to buy it very soon.

    Thanks

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    Johan Zeelie
    12 Nov 2011 at 02:42 PM
  • Graham
    I don't know why you cannot acheive better accuracy than you say...seriously,when I had the AT44-10, in 5.5...15mm ctc was always a norm at 40mtrs.
    I can actually acheive 40mm ctc with my Bam B30 springer at 40mtrs,this is also in 5.5,the only thing I did with it was a strip and lube,it puts out 18fpe.
    All these shots were made resting on a cushion on top of my workmate bench..
    Keep at it
    Pellets I used for the AT44 were loguns 20.5grn,and the pellets I used for the B30 were Superfields 15.9grn
    Good luck

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    Steven Manderville
    28 Oct 2011 at 05:11 PM
  • Gosh! If any of us here could get my At44X-10 to group 10mm at 40m I'd be delighted. Even using a benchrest, none of my club's best shots can better 35mm at 35m. I've tried different pellets, different filling pressures and even using single-pellet loading to eliminate possible magazine issues. About 1200 pellets later I suspect it's either the barrel (unlikely) or more likely the extremely poorly sized pellet- loading probe which has so much slop that it doesn't enter the lande centrally. Of course it does when closed as the lead-ins do their job, but how do the pellet skirts like that? The magazine-locating probe also is a very sloppy fit which must cause the pellets grief as they are driven into the lande.

    I've reworked the trigger as per an excellent post by an Estonian owner, tidied up the (three) magazines so they pass pellets nicely, have settled on JSB Exact Heavy 4.52mm 10.64gn and use a Leapers 8-32x56 SWAT 30mm. The rifle has also been stripped for lubrication and tighness checking and the barrel and crown look fine.

    The stock shape, trigger and magazine system I like but despair over accuracy has driven me to buy a Steyr LG110 FT .177.

    Before giving up on the Hatsan though, I plan to have a properly sized pellet-loading probe and magazine-locating probe made as illustrated on an excellent You Tube tuning video. It'll be about six weeks before results will be known so until then, fingers crossed.

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    Graham Allardice
    28 Oct 2011 at 10:23 AM
  • I've got the 44-10 hatan air rifle for 6 months and don't understand the rubbish the people are talking about the rifle.
    My grouping at 40metres is 10mm and very happy with the rifle, I use premiere ultra magnum 10.5GR.
    Please send those people to me that I can teach them how to shoot.
    From JHB SA

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    chris botha
    28 Oct 2011 at 09:02 AM
  • Not heard of it on a Hatsan, but many years ago I had it happen with a Titan. The barrel support was slack and started to 'rotate' around the air cylinder taking the barrel with it. Is this what is happening to your Hatsan, as the barrel suport set up is similar, but the Titan barrel looked much slimmer than the barrel on the Hatsan which seems quite robust.

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    Pat Farey
    17 Oct 2011 at 11:58 AM
  • Has anyone heard of a twisting barrel on the AT44-10 because it is on our rifle,but other than that we think that it is a great gun and it is most accurate with the Air Arms Diabalo feild plus pellets

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    Shelby
    16 Oct 2011 at 10:58 AM
  • Never had the .25 version,find someone who has one and chrony it,then convert the fps to fpe then convert to joules....obviously the different weight of the pellets will give you different results.
    The standard AT44,short air-tube states that it will give you 46 joules...the long tube version states that it will give you 57 joules...
    Steven

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    Steven Manderville
    28 Sep 2011 at 07:04 PM
  • can't seem to find out how many joules the hatsan 44-10 in .25/635 produces..
    opinions seem to vary.. 38 joules? some say 47joules..
    anybody know??
    thanks.. rick.

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    rick
    27 Sep 2011 at 11:46 PM
  • If you just type Hatsan Arms Company into google, you can download the only manual that I know of.

    Steven

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    Steven Manderville
    12 Sep 2011 at 08:16 PM
  • can any one help me please i have been trying to get the manual for a hatsan at44-10, i would be realy grateful thank you.

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    mr bill barclay
    12 Sep 2011 at 06:52 PM
  • A very good rifle. I have had mine for 3 weeks now and love it. I find Gammo pro match pellets very accurate, shooting one hole groups at 25m.

    What is the cost of a spare pressure vessel, as I cant seem to locate one in South Africa?

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    Steve Yaxley
    30 Jul 2011 at 10:31 AM
  • Thanks Steven. Great contact info thanks. The relatives I'd ask to help are in Southampton. I wonder if there's a dealer there?

    Oliver, why not remove the stock and bore a new hole for the mounting stud?

    Tom, you need to just pump a lot and as the pressure rises pump harder. It helps if you're at least 75kg too, I fill from a dive bottle,

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    Graham Allardice
    17 Jul 2011 at 08:23 AM
  • The AT44-10 is great. Can some one explain to me how to refill the air chamber. I have a Hatsan pump.

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    Tom Benadie
    16 Jul 2011 at 09:47 PM
  • Has anyone who owns the hatsan AT44-10 successfully mounted a bipod to the gun? If so how? i am aware that a sling swivel stud should be used but im struggling to find one long enough to fit the existing screw holes. Any suggestions!!

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    Oliver Acland
    16 Jul 2011 at 02:41 PM
  • Graham

    Just a thought,the Webley Raider has the same magazine,its basically the same gun.

    Steven

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    Steven Manderville
    16 Jul 2011 at 10:00 AM
  • Hi again Graham

    Just looked at the stock in my local gun shop and they only have .22 magazines in at the moment.
    Just thought,A colleague of mine on the chinese gun forum is an RFD and he sells Hatsans,he is in Swansea.Couldn't he send the parts[if he has them] to your relatives in Devon,and then post them to you in NZ.
    His name is Will and you can reach him at www.woodfield-gcp.co.uk

    Tell him Steve from Bulgaria told you "Uncle Bulgaria" to all on the site.
    Hope this helps,if not get back to me via the email addy I gave you.
    Steven

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    Steven Manderville
    16 Jul 2011 at 09:20 AM
  • Hi Graham.

    My email addy is mestala09@gmail.com send me a mail and I should be able to get you a spare magazine.

    Steven

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    Steven Manderville
    16 Jul 2011 at 08:48 AM
  • Steven
    Thanks for your response. I'm in Wellington New Zealand. My wife is from Devon and she has relatives a-plenty in England who maybe could buy a couple of magazines and post them to me as a gift!

    FYI my current air rifles are a Weihrauch HW98 .177, a very modified Gamo Socom 1000 .177, both with Leapers 4-16x56 SWAT AOE scopes, and a Hatsan AT44X-10 .177 with a Leapers 8-32x56SWAT AOE scope. I use them all for paper and FT shooting.

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    Graham Allardice
    15 Jul 2011 at 11:26 PM
  • What country are you in?? Graham

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    Steven Manderville
    15 Jul 2011 at 08:10 PM
  • Thanks Steven but Edgar brothers replied that they don't export. Is it illegal to export things like airgun magazines from England?

    Hatsan Turkey referred me to their Australian distributor who in turn referred me to three Australian retailers who also told me it's illegal for them to export.

    When it comes to airguns maybe New Zealand is the last country of the free! Here we have no power limits, anyone over 18 can own an airgun, (Over 16 with a FAL) and only PCP rifles need a FAL. My AT44 is delivering 22 ft/lb using 10.64gn pellets.

    I think it really sucks that the NZ Hatsan distributor won't import PCP parts despite the requirement of our Sale Of Goods Act to provide spare parts for a reasonable period - usually 7 years.

    A year or so ago I sold a BSA Sportsman HV because I' couldn't obtain a second magazine for it. Looks like the AT44 will be following it. Sad.

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    Graham Allardice
    15 Jul 2011 at 07:57 AM
  • Edgar Brothers.com.... are the main Hatsan dealer in the uk,I believe,you should be able to get parts from them.
    Steven

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    Steven Manderville
    14 Jul 2011 at 12:25 AM
  • Initial trigger release-weight was never less than 1400gm and pretty creepy. i've reworked the trigger and now the release weight is 225gm with no creep. It can be done without reducing sear-engagement safety. See http://www.nzairgunners.com/nzairgunforum/showthread.php?t=9928 for details.

    Advice please on where I can buy spare .177 magazines in UK?

    GrahamA

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    Graham Allardice
    13 Jul 2011 at 11:49 PM
  • Thats right Pat,the side lever action on mine is quite a smooth operation too.
    All good quality pellets load very well in the 10 shot alloy drum..and there is a mechanism built in so you cannot double load a pellet into the cylinder

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    Steven Manderville
    24 May 2011 at 12:42 PM
  • Once a loaded magazine is in place, every time you cycle the action a pellet is automatically seated into the breech ready for firing.

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    Pat Farey
    24 May 2011 at 01:53 AM
  • Hi I was wondering how do these guns load ? Do you have to spin the cartridge with your thumb ?? Please help ASAP thanks

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    michael
    23 May 2011 at 07:39 PM
  • this gun is too heavy for me.i got exhausted when i was hunting.and this is pellet fussy.i sold my gun and bought benjamin discovery instead which is by par light and very accurate using domed type pellets.and its worth for the money.

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    nathoi
    21 Apr 2011 at 05:01 AM
  • And the're cheaper here...but I think we all know that most things are cheaper outside the uk

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    Steven Manderville
    18 Apr 2011 at 03:17 PM
  • I'll be moving to Bulgaria then...

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    Pat Farey
    18 Apr 2011 at 03:05 PM
  • I've had the AT44S-10 for over 4yrs now and cannot fault it.It's in .22 calibre synthetic stock,mine does have tru-glo sites,but I have a Hawke 4-16x50 map-pro on it,and the best and most accurate pellets I've found are the Logun Penetrators 20.5grn.Nobody seems to have mentioned them on here.
    I have chronyed the gun with these pellets and they averaged 855fps which gave 33fpe at the muzzle..Superdomes which are alot lighter at 14.3grn were 905fps which gave just over 26fpe..
    The loguns gave much more penetration and very hard hitting,even though slower.
    By the way,this gun is rated fac,because here in Bulgaria there is no power restriction on airguns,no need for a license

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    Steven Manderville
    18 Apr 2011 at 02:30 PM
  • Can someone please tell me the model number of .22 Original (under lever) Airgun which was sold around 1968.I would also like to know where can I get any Airgun magazine of 1968.Thanks.

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    sultan
    16 Mar 2011 at 07:41 AM
  • I really thank you very much for getting me all the questions!
    thanks!
    Paul

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    Pablo usuliax
    09 Mar 2011 at 01:15 AM
  • Usually we would get to hear of a fault that was common in a particular model, but we have had no reports of air leaks in Hatsan at44-10.

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    Pat Farey
    08 Mar 2011 at 05:04 PM
  • There are comments in internet who say they have had problems with the air charge in the at-44. air is lost (does not fit or lose) and that does not contain very well:
    I am very confused because I like to buy this product (at-44) but no longer know what to think!
    Thanks for all your comments

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    Pablo usuliax
    08 Mar 2011 at 02:58 AM
  • Yea? Tell me more. What exactly does that mean?

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    Rene
    06 Mar 2011 at 10:25 AM
  • that is there in the air that this model had problems with sealing and cargo lost or not air!?

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    Pablo usuliax
    06 Mar 2011 at 03:24 AM
  • i there t last 2 coments were did y bye the guns from and how much thanks lads

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    sean
    02 Mar 2011 at 09:18 PM
  • I get 50 accurate shots with mine before I recharge it. Must say, I haven't tried more, but rather be safe it you need that power for the killing shot. Try match Grade diabolo pellets, work very well for me.

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    Rene
    28 Feb 2011 at 07:55 AM
  • rene nel thank you for you help it did throw me at how the pellets took a long time to get there its a good gun and have bin out with it a few times now how many full power shots do you get out of yours befor a refill also how does yours get on with pest controle so far iv only had a pigeon with it at close range how is it for long range il try some new pellets what do you recomend thanks

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    George
    22 Feb 2011 at 09:34 PM
  • George - I had the Hatsan 125 before this AT44-10. The 125 shoots at 1250fps and the AT44-10 at 1090fps. I realised that the AT44-10 hits the same targets I use at a mutch greater force. I cannot help but mention the pellets again. It made a worlds difference when I switched over to Match grade Diabolo pellets. Accuracy is just so mutch better. I only notice now that the rifle on the review has only one band on the barrel - mine has got 2 also, but as long as anything that touches the barrel is constant, it is no problem.

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    Rene Nel
    22 Feb 2011 at 06:57 AM
  • hi iv had my hatsan at44-10 for about 3 weeks now its my first pcp rifle and its a great gun very accurate onme thing i have noticed is that it seems to take the pellet a long time to hit the target once fired maybe its just me as im used to louder airguns also mine has 2 bands supporting the barrel does this make difference and does anyone have any suggestions in terms of tuning it thanks

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    George
    21 Feb 2011 at 03:53 PM
  • Received and fitted the new scope Nikki Sterling and shot at the weekend. Measured 50m in the open and achieved good groupings (7-8cm) more than adequate for my plinking! I'm sure tighter groupings would be achievable in a controled environment but I went out to 50m to fine tune the scope. the replacement confirmed my suspicions on the original scope. now happy with the rifle and thanks to Dads Toys in Somerset West Mall for their help!!

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    Phil
    31 Jan 2011 at 11:26 AM
  • thank you very much for your comment and seen many video showing how at44-10 shooting with PCP over 100 m to achieve the target PCP tell you who else I can find in stores that have a good quality. It is my only recreation profecional'm not a shooter. no matter if only one shot of the 20 shots is good.
    .22 rifles in my country carries a great paper and you can not throw out the mountains as easy as a PCP.
    thank you very much for your answers!

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    Pablo usuliax
    31 Jan 2011 at 12:37 AM
  • The Hatsan AT44s-10 is an air rifle. There are very few air rifles that will shoot to 100m accurately, and those that do will have a much higher power than the Hatsan model on test here. I suggest that you look at .22 rimfire cartridge rifles for target shooting at 100m.

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    Pat Farey
    30 Jan 2011 at 01:58 PM
  • hi i want to buy the hatsan at44s-10 shooting only 100m distance only for recreation and I am really confused with all the comments ... What do I do? from already thank you very much

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    Pablo usuliax
    30 Jan 2011 at 01:22 AM
  • I got myself the Diabolo EXACT match grade pellets and all my problems is solved. Grouping is perfect shooting from a bench. I have also tried the seating and non seating of the pellets and it made no diffirance. If you look at the loading meganism its clear that the pellet can only be pushed in the barrel the distance the pin is that pushes it in, so it is impossible that it makes any diffirance. I've loaded my mag with pellets so that not one sits the same and it made no diffirance.

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    Rene Nel
    24 Jan 2011 at 10:15 AM
  • ive just fitted a 50mm hawke scope to my at44 and was zeroing in at work the other day at an exact measured 100ft using air arms diablo field pellets i was quite impressed and am getting 1" groups with it over that distance

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    Lloyd rose
    11 Jan 2011 at 07:20 PM
  • How is your grouping and consistancy on a paper target and also what scope and pellets do you use?

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    Rene Nel
    10 Jan 2011 at 06:05 AM
  • bought one of these on saturday from west malling gun shop and spent all day picking up pigeons, would recommend to anyone . previously had a bsa lighting and the hatsan is a thousand times better.

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    charlie
    10 Jan 2011 at 03:02 AM
  • Shot man, now I got the idea. My scope does adjust, but the grouping is very poor. I shot with another tipe of pcp gun at safarie & outdoor were I bought this one and at about 20mts all 3 shots overlaped each other.
    Just something I also realized. The Hatsan 125 witch I also got is rated to 1250fps and this one 1090fps. This AT44-10 hits the targets mutch harder than the 125. Check out my shooting range on youtube at "Pellet Gun Sniper Shooting Range - 75 meter"

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    Rene Nel
    07 Jan 2011 at 02:17 PM
  • Rene I will have to get back to you on the brand, not sure but the were supplied with the weapon. Bought some good quality ones at Twin Bore yesterday and will give them a go this weekend with open sites. Personaly I have never been a fan of Nikko Stirling so never have had one. My wife bought the whole set up as a gift for me so I was not involved. What i suggest you do is give the scope a significant adjustment like I did. Given that @ 25mtr 1 click is around 1/8th of an inch a 160 click adjustment should "correct" the scope in the selected direction by about 20 inches!!. Be sure to count the clicks and take your time with it so you can reverse the process, fire a couple of shots and see if the scope has adjusted. I did this on both the horizontal and vertical adjustments with no movement in the fall of shot - scope is not therefore adjusting as it should.

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    Phillip Kaye
    07 Jan 2011 at 01:27 PM
  • Hey thanx Phillip. This does not sounds good so far. Is your problem solved yet. I also got a Nikko Stirling 2-7 x 32 Gold Crown. Can itr be the scope? What pellets do you recommend?

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    Rene Nel
    07 Jan 2011 at 01:16 PM
  • Rene - I purchased my AT44 - 10 from Dads toys in Stellenbosch. Happy with the rifle just very unhappy with the Scope. Cannot get better than a 10cm grouping at 20mtrs. Carried out a massive correction on the scope of 180 Degrees on the scope adjustment (which should translate into a 20 inch correction roughly) with no movement out of the existing 10cm group (or non group!!!) This was both horizontal and vertical! Dealer has offered to change scope for me. I do a lot of shooting with a 7x64 Breneke so familiar with scopes but was very dissapointed with the Nikki Sterling supplied.

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    Phillip Kaye
    07 Jan 2011 at 01:04 PM
  • After searching the net I also decided on the Hatsan At44-10. Paid about $810 for it here in South Africa. Still struggeling with the grouping of my shot thou. Will try the seating of the pellets and some other kinds. I did found that the heavier pellet have so mutch more stricking power than the others. Pitty is that the heavy Long distance Ts10 from gammo is to loose in the mag and slide around. Hope to get the grouping right soos.

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    Rene Nel
    06 Jan 2011 at 05:49 AM
  • OK, I got a reply from Carl at Solware. He wrote that the descriptions Hatsan provide mention open sights, but that none of the ones they sell have open sights at all.

    However, I happened to be at Trago Mills (Newton Abbot) this morning, and they had the exact rifle I was interested in - an AT44-10 in .22, with open sights.

    I'm glad I got to see one, if only to get the curiosity out of my system. I guess they're alright for the money, but to be honest I wasn't that impressed with it. Admittedly, it was a typical Trago deal - scuffed up and overpriced - but it just didn't have the same sense of quality about it that my S510 has. The wood stock felt and looked like a charity shop sideboard, and the whole rifle felt very front-heavy. Interestingly, I'd also looked at a synthetic stock one at my local PROPER shop, and that one felt and looked much nicer.

    The Tru-Glo sights on today's rifle were interesting to see, and seemed easy to use, but I think I'd find the little coloured dots a distraction.

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    Robin
    04 Jan 2011 at 01:40 PM
  • I'm waiting for a reply from Solware about this, as their site advertises the iron sight version. Once I get a reply I'll post the outcome here. Thanks

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    Robin
    04 Jan 2011 at 02:19 AM
  • Im pretty certain that the AT isnt available with iron sights.
    Forgive if im proved wrong though

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    Lloyd rose
    01 Jan 2011 at 09:46 PM
  • A previous comment mentioned the iron sights version of the AT44. Does anybody know if this variant is readily available in the UK, and if so, where from? Most stockists seem only to be selling the version without.

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    Robin
    01 Jan 2011 at 03:57 PM
  • i have found the same Pat, i always try them in any new gun just out of curiosity though and always find the same outcome of bad groupings and stray pelets that are well off target .

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    Lloyd Rose
    11 Oct 2010 at 06:13 PM
  • Over the years I've found that most 'pointed' pellets don't perform well in any air rifle - stick to good quality domeheads and you can't go wrong.

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    Pat Farey
    10 Oct 2010 at 10:38 AM
  • ive owned an AT44-10 walnut .22 since june, ive been shooting for many years and find this an excellent gun, i shoot mainly pigeon and get good clean kills at amazing distances with this gun.
    I use air arms diablo field pellets all the time , i have tried others but they havent worked aswel,l i did find that you have to check the length of your pellet of choice carefully as the air arms huntsman (pointed tip) and most other pointed pellets are too long and the tips foul as the magazine rotates causing mis-shaped pellets that go all over the place.
    This gun in my opinion works best with a fairly heavy pellet and it hasnt let me down out in the field once.

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    Lloyd rose
    09 Oct 2010 at 03:18 PM
  • Try giving Edgar Bros. (the official UK importers) a call on 01625 613177. They will be able to tell you the latest specifications and let you know if a Mk2 version is being produced,

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    Pat Farey
    23 Aug 2010 at 01:48 AM
  • thanks for that pat much appreciated.could you tell me if hatsan or producing a
    mk2 model of this gun as the walnut stock version i am looking to buy new has 2 barrel band supports fitted , reading these reviews the front band cause grouping accuracy problems , but i notice on hatsans site all the versions of this gun now only have one barrel band bracket fitted which i guess is to cure the accuracy problems but it does not say this is a different version of the rifle

    thanks for any help

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    anth 69
    22 Aug 2010 at 07:26 PM


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