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Walther LGV

Mark Camoccio gets a chance to try a very sophisticated springer... so what will he make of the Walther LGV Master Ultra rifle

I don’t deny I’m a very lucky chap. Getting to handle and test the very latest air-powered gear is an immensely enjoyable part of my work these days, and I rarely lose sight of the fact. Many supposed ‘new’ models are of course simple reworks of an old design, or sport just a ‘new stock upgrade’; but just occasionally products emerge that stop us all in our tracks.

Spring Again
When news of the LGV first leaked out from various trade shows around the globe, I for one became a little over excited. You see, when a big name such as Walther announces some major investment in spring-powered airguns, enthusiasts such as myself get understandably excited. With pneumatics dominating the scene for the last two decades, the humble ‘springer’ has been largely side-lined, often overlooked as a second class tool when compared to the recoilless alternative.

Indeed, it’s sometimes easy to forget just what a quality spring powered airgun can do. Yes of course they’re harder to shoot well, but as someone who handled the fi nest tuned specimens from Airmasters back in the ‘80’s, taking a goodly amount of silverware in the process, I’m acutely aware of the outer limits of performance possible from a spring/piston design, running at its optimum.

Hi Tech Spec
This was the design brief for the LGV - a break barrel, spring piston driven airgun, fi nely engineered to close tolerances, sporting internal tweaks and features to minimize recoil, noise and vibrations.

Whilst many airguns are (quite understandably, especially in times of recession) made down to a price, the LGV is produced in the knowledge that a market exists for a no-compromise spring gun for the serious sporting shooter who wishes to push performance levels to the limit.

An abundance of R&R has apparently gone into this model, and every piece of know-how and received wisdom in the betterment of spring piston design has been incorporated along the way.

The manufacturer’s claims for the LGV action are based on the inclusion of specifi ed technical features at its heart. I’ll focus on the manufacturer’s claims and general gun-spec first, then we’ll see just how this most exciting prospect shapes up in real world range time.

Walther have initially introduced the LGV concept as a range of five different models; all with the same action at their heart. There are two Challenger versions sporting synthetic stocks, one supplied with open sights, and the other with open sights and barrel weight; an LGV Master, with beech stock and open sights. Then comes the LGV Master Ultra (on test here) with the same beech stock, open sights and barrel weight; and fi nally the LGV Competition Ultra, sporting a rather attractive fully adjustable stock.

Super Silent Technology
The LGV’s ‘Super Silent Technology’ is all about play between many of the moving components. Firstly, a superslick barrel lock is fi tted to this rifl e, which ensures that the barrel can only be broken by fi rst pushing up the lock handle. A perfect lock-up is therefore assured, with any shock from fi ring having no effect on the barrel’s rest position. With the pivoting breech area seen as the main weakness of any breakbarrel design, the inclusion of a barrel lock becomes the holy grail where solid reassurance is concerned. Various barrel locking devices have been fi tted as aftermarket custom additions over the years, but with all versions of the LGV coming with this excellent feature as standard, this alone gives some idea as to Walther’s statement of intent.

With regards to the cocking rod, all contact points have guides made of synthetic material backed by compression springs. This ensures perfect contact with the piston when the rifl e is cocked; with the idea being that any scraping and abrasion of metal parts along with associated noise, is all but eliminated. An articulated linkage allows for the slot cut into the stock to be smaller, thus the woodwork in this area is stronger.

Vibration Reduction System
The piston is mounted on lowfriction synthetic rings (in much the same way as the TX200) meaning it runs quietly with no metal-to-metal contact with the cylinder walls. In addition, Walther’s design ensures that the piston has no direct contact with the cocking rod, reducing further wear, friction, and noise.

The mainspring itself is made from specially tempered valve spring wire, and the inclusion of a full length spring guide all helps reduce vibration.

Spring vs Gas Ram
Walther have stated that opting for traditional spring power in preference to the use of a gasram power plant for the LGV was a conscious decision. They reckon that the recoil of a gas-ram is sharper and therefore harder on components than that of a comparable spring piston design, and although I have no scientifi c data to hand, in my experience of testing many examples of both, I’m inclined to agree.

They claim that the LGV action is just as quick as a gas-ram too, with piston impact occurring after approximately 8 milliseconds. Fast indeed, and with further tests apparently demonstrating the lack of spring fatigue, even after the rifl e has been cocked for long periods, it’s clear that some serious thinking and research has been applied here.

Getting To Grips
OK; we’ve heard the pre-sales blurb, and we now know there’s some serious stuff going on inside the LGV, but it’s time to feel the merchandise.

Rarely have I been so keen to get to grips with a new gun as I was with the LGV, and some rather slick packaging helped to fuel the expectation. Once inside the smart carton, and I have to admit to being just slightly underwhelmed, due to the bland shaping of the ambidextrous woodwork. My test model came specifi ed as the LGV Master Ultra, and without the racy features of the Competition spec, it does look a little conservative. That said, get over that initial disappointment , look a little closer and appreciate the supreme precision of the laser cut chequering and Walther motif, the quality of the timber, and the soft rubber pad supplied. Note also the properly seated socket head stock screws, and the neat silver badge beneath the grip.

With Walther obviously world renowned on an engineering level, to state that the fi nish and build quality of the LGV is top notch is an understatement. Deep lustrous chemical blueing coats the fi nely polished metalwork, and the all-metal construction just oozes class.

Walther supply this model with superbly precise conventional open sights, including a hooded fore-sight with interchangeable elements. This Master Ultra spec also comes fi tted with a super slick barrel weight, which really looks the part. A removable knurled ring protects the crown at the muzzle, and also conceals the fi tting point for a silencer if so desired.

A quality two-stage trigger is another necessary feature for any top class springer with ambitions, and the LGV doesn’t disappoint in this area either. In short, it’s a sophisticated multisear design, befi tting of this rifle’s quality. Adjustable for both length of travel and weight, I found it pleasantly precise and crisp in use. I chose to leave the mechanism well alone however, due to the absence of any instructions regarding adjustment with my test gun. Almost certainly those guide notes will be included with normal gun sales, so rest assured. Nice visuals then.

Finely Engineered
First impressions on handling are dominated by the weight. The LGV Master Ultra is no lightweight, tipping the scales at 9.3lbs, which is signifi cant in anyone’s book; especially for a break barrel. Where basic physics are concerned, sheer mass of course helps to absorb recoil. Stability is another factor, and if this rifl e is to see outdoor competition, primarily on the HFT circuit, then weight in itself can indeed help to keep the rifl e on target.

As mentioned, to cock the LGV, the barrel locking catch has to be fi rst squeezed upwards. Subsequently breaking the barrel then reveals just what we’re dealing with here, as quite the smoothest cocking stroke ends with a satisfying crunch. Any disciple of truly tuned spring power or the legendary Whiscombe models, will appreciate what I’m getting at here. That distinctive crunch and the fact that the barrel self supports in the open position (once broken) courtesy of the perfectly set breech jaws, are all synonymous with fi ne engineering, and they speak volumes for the LGV’s quality.

That said, it’s a smooth cocking stroke - not the easiest - and here is one of my gripes; intriguingly, the barrel on my test model measured 15.5inches, yet the brochure shows the specifi cation across the range as 16.5inches. This suggests to me that some fi nal tweaks have been made at the latter stages of the LGV’s development. Walther have opted to fi t the same length barrel through the range, and I can’t help thinking a longer version, at least available as an option, would make sense. Despite the growing trend, even obsession, for all things carbine, I think that the extra leverage of a rifl e length barrel (say 18” – 19”) would not only lessen cocking effort, but help the rifl e’s balance too. A fractional increase in lock time would be a small price to pay in my view.

The LGV Master Ultra still balances nicely, certainly with that barrel-weight in place, and with the weight already at a premium, I can appreciate the designers’ dilemma. Spring powered air rifle design is always a compromise after all, and Walther deserve much praise for this venture overall.

On the range
At this stage it should be noted that a small amount of smoke was evident from mild dieseling initially, but with no apparent affect on results. As with many new spring guns, any excess lube should burn off in time.

Chrono stats first, and consistency with a variety of ammunition was predictably on the button. My .22 model produced a ten shot string with just 11fps variation with Air Arms Diabolo, and 14fps with Crosman Premier. I was told by the UK importers Armex, that power levels are being set in the region of 11.4ft/lbs, and with my two test brands recording an average of 11.8ft/lbs energy and 11.4ft/lbs respectively, this statement proved a good guide.

Power in itself stands for nothing of course, and the LGV stands out for that gloriously muted fi ring cycle. Forget ‘Silent Technology’, for there’s still signifi cant noise as the gun fi res. However, with the action effectively highly tuned, compared to the majority of spring powered rivals, the lack of resonance and spring twang is marked. Of course it recoils too, yet in quite the most, civilized fashion.

That ‘feel’ translates where it matters, with down-range accuracy well and truly up to scratch. Over 30yds, the AA Diabolo’s tore genuine ctc quarter inch clusters. Likewise RWS Superfi elds. The Premier’s produced slightly larger groups, just under half inch. A rifl e of this class though needs to be pushed, and over 50yds, with the JSB AA ammo, I managed 3/4inch groups from the over-arm FT stance and if a cross-wind hadn’t persisted, I probably could improve on that.

Yes, the LGV has certainly caused something of a stir in our airgun community, and having now handled the merchandise, I can see why. The sheer mass of the thing will dictate sales in some quarters, since it’s not for the feint hearted. That said, if you just don’t fancy air tank top-ups, diving shops, manual pumping or any of the other paraphernalia associated with the PCP world, then this precision tool represents a serious self-contained alternative, with mouth-watering build quality.

Maybe a little heavy for hunting, but easily an option for HFT. Paying the extra for the Competition Ultra version has to be worth it too. Either way, the LGV is not only superbly executed - it’s a proper airgun, with a spring at its ultra refi ned heart, and for many, including myself, that’s cause enough for celebration.

Well done Walther for keeping the faith. GM

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Technical Specifications
Model: Walther LGV Master Ultra
Type: Break-barrel spring powered
Calibre: .22 on test, .177 available
Weight: 9.3lbs
Overall Length: 43.25inches
Barrel Length: 15.5inches on test model
Stock: Beech sporter
Trigger: 2-stage unit
Guide Price: £556 as specified
Options include: Challenger versions (synthetic stock) Competition Ultra version (adjustable beech stock)

All Prices Are Guides Due to the Changes in US & European Exchange Rates

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User Comments
  • Hi
    Please could you tell me if both the rear and foresights are removable on the LGV?

    With Thanks

    Comment by: John Francis     Posted on: 17 Mar 2013 at 04:53 PM

  • This review helped me decide on the synthetic LGV, I agreed with the it 'aint the sound of silence thing....until after two months ownership a fellow club member at GFTC passed me a silencer. Dear lord I was and still am amazed.The added length looked weird at first but talk about quiet.The pro-sport next to me with a silencer on sounded,well, like a springer with a silencer,THE LGV SOUNDS LIKE A SILENCED PCP! You don't believe me? Go ahead and give it a go mate, Fekin' marvelous.I love this gun,have I said that already...?

    Comment by: Thomas Coleman     Posted on: 29 Jul 2013 at 05:37 PM

  • I bought the Walther LGV in the challenger variant, only yesterday. This Rifle is the best air rifle that I have ever had the pleasure to shoot and all this was straight out of the box.
    Half inch spinners at a measured thirty yards in .22, what!!! Amazing.
    I have had owned most modern air rifles and custom springers and this as put all the previous air rifles to shame, my Air arms pro-sport now feels tractor like compared to the Walther. And so quiet, no need for a silencer, what!!! Light too in the synthetic stock, bloody fantastic.
    This LGV lives up to the Walther blurb and then some more, perfection from muzzle to trigger. 'Simply, sublime.' Well done Walther and a brave move to launch a high end springer in the PCP dominated world of airguns.

    p.s I'm not sponsored by Walther, nor is this just another air mag rave. All the above is all true as to the Walther LGV Challenger.

    Comment by: Tony gooders Goodwin     Posted on: 15 Nov 2013 at 04:10 PM

  • My Challenger ultra in .177 arrived yesterday and yes it is AWESOME! I got an amazing new years deal in New Zealand..$549! I have a Hawke 3-9*40 on the way and cannot wait to get her sighted in. Accuracy is excellent with the fibre optic sights but my older eyes need the scope. The barrel lock up sound is addictive it is so smooth and solid. Packs a real wallop at 23 Joules or about 15.9 ft lbs (no12 ft lb legal limit on springers in NZ), due to so many lifestyle block owners using air guns for possums ect.
    On first impressions it seems to shoot similarly to my TX 200.
    Another great review Mark thankyou.

    Comment by: Mark Nixon     Posted on: 10 Jan 2014 at 07:55 AM

  • In have the LGV Master in .22 with Air Arms domes its simply amazing. It shoots just like a well tunded springer out of the box!, cant wait for the new "budget" break barel, think its called the Taurus! would think the HW99 is going to have some very serious competition!

    Comment by: dave payne     Posted on: 27 May 2014 at 06:52 PM

  • I have a .177 Master. I had the tuning trigger installed. I have been shooting an American R1 for 31 years and a TX200 for two years. I think the LGV is a little twangy with pellets of less than 8.5 grains. The tuning trigger is the cat's meow. I suspect the standard trigger is made on the other side of the Pacific Ocean. I hope after about 500-1000 shots the twang shoe go away. The rifle enjoys 8.4 grain H&N Diablos.

    Comment by: Frank     Posted on: 02 Apr 2015 at 06:53 PM

  • I have just bought the master pro version. I ordered a competition ultra but they are currently unavailable?
    The gun is brilliant!
    Smooth cocking and vibration and twang free shooting. It is like firing a gas rammer without the thump at the end.

    It shot well straight from the box but after a few dozen AA fields it was clover leaves at 20 yards.

    I think it can only get better as it beds in.

    All this for £350!!!
    Thats second hand money.

    Comment by: neil christie     Posted on: 02 Jun 2015 at 08:28 PM

  • Update: I have put about a tin of pellets through this gun and it is getting better. Smooth and accurate with a quality feel to it. For the money,I don't think anything comes close. In fact , I would say that it is a dead heat with a Pro Sport.

    Comment by: neil christie     Posted on: 13 Jun 2015 at 09:53 AM

  • Having wrote an earlier review on the merits of the Walther Challenger, indeed I still have this rifle. I went on to further purchase the flagship model that being the LGV ultra Competition in .177.
    Well I can honestly say that it's the worst air rifle I have ever had to misfortune to own. Having tried all the leading brands of pellets, this re refuses to shoot straight, scoped or unscoped, that is. Not only that, but the trigger is like plasticine no matter how you adjust it.
    My Walther LGV Ultra Competition is an absolute pig, the worst air rife that I've ever owned in my fifty years of air rifle ownership.
    I have written to Walther and told them the same.

    Comment by: Tony Gooders.     Posted on: 27 Oct 2015 at 05:29 PM

  • Hi Tony,

    I'm sorry to hear you've not had any luck with your rifle. Have you spoken to the shop you bought it from? It really sounds like you've been very unlucky with your gun and it should be much better than that!

    Let us know how you get on.

    Comment by: Troll Hunter     Posted on: 28 Oct 2015 at 07:57 PM

  • I have sold the gun on at a massive loss. The Walther LGV Ultra Competition air rifle represents the worst air gun that I have owned in the last fifty years of air gunning.
    As a footnote I still own the LGV challenger.For which I wrote Walther a glowing review of that variant and they sent me a very welcome gift of a Walther silencer.
    I have i written to Walther again regarding how rubbish my competition variant was but have received as yet, t no reply.

    Be advised to try before you buy, is my advice. Because my LGV Ultra Competition, was a pig!

    Comment by: Tony Gooders.     Posted on: 02 Nov 2015 at 02:30 PM

  • Purchased the Walther LGV Master Pro in .177 calibre in November of 2016.
    Scoped up with an old Hawke 3-9x40 airpro on BLK two piece mounts.
    Zeroed in on about ten shots and its going through the same hole at 30 yards no problem. Out at 50 yards I am striking spent shotgun shells facing head on. The accuracy of this rifle will leave you in complete awe...I keep thinking I have my Daystate MK4 Is in my hands then I realise its is just my springer.
    Ok maybe in the .177 cal its got a bit of twang in the action and I am sure a better fitting spring guide will cure this problem and the top hat is made of plastic and not deralin so it crushes into loads of bits but you can swap this out for a steel top hat from T.R.Robb for under 15 notes. the trigger is a little loose in the first stage and cocking the rifle does not take much of that loose feeling out of the first stage either, but the second stage is crisp and predictable and after a couple of minutes you soon forget about the little bit of play in the first stage anyway. The finish on these rifles are in a league of their own now and greatly improved over from the launch of this model a couple of years ago. Hatsan was making better quality rifles at the time when these first came out and no way was they worth the price tag at the time that Walther was asking for this product...BUT THEY ARE NOW. So Walther what can you do to make this rifle 100% perfection? Well sort out that slop in the first stage of the trigger pull and make sure the spring guide is a more of a snug fit to prevent that little bit of twang and please start using deralin for the top hat too instead of that hard plastic....it does not hold up to the spring action and crumbles into loads of little pieces that you now have to fish out and re-lube accordingly. Marks out of 10??? I would give it 11 it is that good in 99.9% of its build and it is just out of this world with the accuracy. You cant believe its a springer. You also cant believe some have said this rifle was the worst they ever bought. If it was it must be down to a one off production fault in the rifle because apart from the bit of twang and loose first stage in the trigger unit you just cant fault it any further. If your thinking of buying one...DO you will not regret it.

    Comment by: Peter M0JFK     Posted on: 24 Nov 2016 at 12:30 AM

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