300 Whisper AR15
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Though I rate and use the Southern Gun Co (SGC) AR15 Speedmaster rifles, it’s also nice to see what else is out there, as there are a few smiths who are also building some interesting examples of the black rifle. One such person is Mark Bradley, who is a PR, Service and High Power shooter and like yours truly - an AR15 nut… A few years ago he got his RFD and started offering his own ARs. Nothing particularly ground breaking just straight-pulls in the usual formats, with all the good ‘go faster’ bits and side cocking actions.
Being a one man band Mark is always pushed in terms of having a spare rifle for gun testing. But he finally came through with a most interesting and unusual adaptation that will suit Gallery/short range users, as this little M4 carbine is chambered in the rather exotic 300 Whisper. In this case and in my opinion it’s the calibre that’s really interesting, though as ever it proves the build versatility of the generic AR15 in that you can adapt the action for almost any cartridge.
Alternate Gallery Calibre
The rifle follows the M4 Carbine build with a collapsing stock in this case from MagPul Industries Corp, and a 4-way forend that fully floats the heavy 13” stainless barrel. The upper receiver is a flat-top with an integral, fold-down, left hand cocking handle and a right hand conversion too. Mark told me he’s not a fan of ambi cocking ARs and feels the right side lever is enough, however if you want that facility just ask. Up front is the standard AR A-frame front sight and if you want to go ‘all-iron’ then D-handles are available.
Without doubt the M4 layout is by far the most popular these days, though in 223 Rem the short 14 ½” barrels do lose you a bit of velocity. However, the speed and capacity potential of the design does lend itself to other disciplines where maximum range is perhaps not so important, if you can find the right calibre.
A few years ago SGC offered their lever-action Speedmasters in both 9mm Parabellum and also 30 Carbine (LA9 and LA30). Both cartridges use a near identical case head, so allowing the use of the standard 223 bolt face and this is what Mark has done with his rifle, only he has picked the 300 Whisper.
Military Roots
The 300 Whisper was designed by J.D. Jones as a true sub-sonic sniper round that would be effective up to 200 yards +. It could use most weights of standard .30” cal bullets that could be driven at below the speed of sound, so making a true silenced weapon. The base case used the 221 Fireball, but these days you can also use 222 or 223 Rem brass, which from our point of view is easier to get. I have to say the round does look a bit odd with the tiny case and big bullet on top.
Being based around a 223 the Whisper can be used in a standard AR15 platform, with just an upper receiver change being required. So if you appreciate what the AR has to offer, you can turn it into a Gallery rifle easily, as the ballistics of the Whisper fit into the criteria required. This strikes me as a good idea and also a lot easier to achieve than the SGC LA system and I always wonder why they never offered straight pull 30 Carbine gun for that purpose?
For short range PR/Service use say 100 – 300 yards the Whisper would probably make a useful alternative to either the 223 Rem or 308 Win. For Gallery events it might be better than the standard 38 Spl, 357 Magnum etc; especially at longer ranges. But in its sub-sonic form it does offer an exceptionally low signature as I discovered and it could be useful as a fox cartridge, given you can get the bullets to expand reliably…
Silent Service
Typical of a .30” cal, bullet choice is generous, as you can go from a 110-grains at around 2150 fps/1129 ft/lbs, right up to 220-240-grain projectiles, which can be run at around 1000 fps/500 ft/lbs or up to 1300 fps/800 ft/lbs. So if you are looking for a silent, short range rifle the Whisper can certainly offer it. Obviously with such low velocities bullet drop is considerable as the range increases.
These figures are from the Sierra manual who used a 10”, Thompson Center Contender pistol to gather the data. Mark supplied a good selection of reloads for me to use and that perhaps is the only down side to this calibre, as you are going to have to reload for it. If you are into reloading, this is fine, but if not then it might put you off. As can be seen the 300 Whisper case has to have the neck enlarged considerably to accept the new diameter bullet. Though a good combination I would say that this gun is very much for the dedicated enthusiast, who is prepared to put the effort in…
The rifle came supplied with an Aim Point red dot scope and a rather nice NV monocular in a special QD mount. The chances are the former would be used for most Gallery work and the latter as part of a night shooting set up, as Mark also supplied an ASE UTRA Compact moderator as well as the standard AR muzzle brake. But I wanted to see what the Whisper could do so I put my 3-9x50 Leupold Custom Shop on top. The trigger was good, showing a crisp, single stage break of about 2 lbs and I was looking forward to see what this combo might offer…
The standard 223, AR15 magazine will take the Whisper cartridge without modification, which is useful, and it will load to the same capacity too. Powder charges are modest, as in most cases weights are around 10-20 grains given what you are trying to achieve using propellants like Alliant 2400, Vit N110 and H 110. Plus the marginal bottleneck case form offers good primary extraction and the straight-pull action is smooth and easy.
Interesting Findings
Ammo went to three loads - 158-grain lead truncated cone (T/C), 144-grain FMJ and 240-grain Sierra boat tail hollow point Match Kings (SMK), these last being the sub-sonic recipe. First up the SMKs with the moderator fitted. The lack of recognisable noise was amazing; the firing signature was like the action of a 22 semi-auto with its mechanical slap noise. That’s all you heard apart from the ‘smack’ as the bullet hit down range. The lead and FMJ were similar though a bit louder.
With the moddy off the Whisper feels a bit jumpy, as you are after all throwing some heavy bullets through a light rifle. Accuracy was acceptable but not amazing, the best load was by far the 144 FMJ, which at 100 yards came in around 1.75”. The sub-sonic printed about 2” and the lead… well I found it strung up the target, despite the good trigger and supported position.
My gut feeling is that the barrel is too short and maybe more bullet weights need to be brought into the equation and rifling twist needs careful consideration too. The best performance was with the lightest 144-grainers, so maybe something between 110-130-grains might show some improvement. However sub-sonic use aside and in fairness - at 50 yards the rifle should be capable of an inch and even out at 300 a good shot should be able to keep it all inside 6”. Though I would imagine at the latter distance wind would be a highly critical factor.
If you are considering the 300 Whisper and I reckon for gallery/short range PR type work it’s a nice little round; one important aspect is the cartridge overall length (COL). The lead bullet load’s COL was only 1.830” as compared to the standard length of 2.245” with the jacketed loads. In this light/short rifle firing without the moderator fitted caused a lot of feed problems, as the ammunition is literally thrown front to back in the magazine. However, fitting the moddy added extra weight, which stopped this happening. For range use I’d want a heavy 16” barrel just to put the weight up. No problems with feed with the other two loads though.
If you own an AR15 then a 300 Whisper conversion does offer a lot more diverse uses, but be prepared to reload for it, as you have no other option…
What We Think:
Good alternative Gallery rifle/calibre
Reloaders only…
Longer barrel might be better
True sub-sonic capability
PRICE: £1085 (as tested)
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05 May 2022 at 04:51 AMPete, sorry if I missed it but what twist rate is the barrel on this particular rifle please? Cheers .
Bill
28 Sep 2011 at 03:27 PMWhy are we surprised about this? After all it's the NRA calling the shots AGAIN... Best dig out the Bisley Bible and see what it says about ballistics for GR competition. I'm very glad I don't target shoot seriously any more, as it's enough to put you off shooting for ever!
Pete Moore
20 May 2009 at 01:59 PMAn e-mail has been sent out to all entrants in Gallery Rifle for 2009 Phoenix meeting.
.300 whisper is not permitted for gallery rifle.
anon
20 May 2009 at 01:03 PMYes reloading is surprisingly addictive. I have just finished load development on my 6.5 Grendel and that was most enjoyable and a real eye opener too. I am about to start on 300 and 338 Ruger Compact Magnum (RCM), so keep an eye out for it in Shooting Sports and Gun Mart.
The Whisper was very unusual and a most interesting calibre and would probably suit a Gallery-type range with a lead bullet only policy. Equally useful would be the Armalon PC Rifle in pistol numbers like 38 Special, 9mm Parabellum etc. In most cases you would have to load, but lead bullets in these calibres are still easy to access. However, I believe that 38 Spl is available in a 158-grain, round-nosed, lead configuration and ready made to shoot from a number of ammo manufacturers.
Pete Moore
03 Apr 2009 at 05:12 PMPete
I would, like you, go for the more accessible calibers if I lived anywhere near a club/range that allowed full bore but as I explained in another post, most of my shooting is done at the MLAGB range at Wedgnock and only pistol/gallery rifles are allowed and then not jacketted heads. I'm also an avid handloader, having got into BPCR and find the handloading side of shooting just as enjoyable as the pulling the trigger. I'm assured solid lead .30M1 heads are available so this influences my choice greatly. It also freaks my FEO out when I request "strange" calibre rifles as all he is used to is shotguns and deer calibers!! Good fun. Wouldn't mind trying a Whisper though ......
chris hollebon
02 Apr 2009 at 11:42 PMYes I did know that SGC make a 30 Carbine straight-pull and also offer this calibre in their lever-action LA30 too. Unlike the 30 Whisper this cartridge is available off the shelf in the UK, so making it a far more viable option for the shooter. However, the Whisper was an exercise from Mark Bradley (Bradley Arms) to show me what he was capable of and an interesting one too.
Yes convincing certain people that 30 Carbine calibre falls within the remit of Gallery Rifle etc is not easy. But it’s good to know that people are out there keeping it real.
PM
Pete Moore
02 Mar 2009 at 11:17 AMPete
Liked the article a lot and now am aware of an alternative to SGC's offerings. I don't know when the article was published but I feel you were erroneous on one point and that is that SGC do offer an AR15 .30 cal in straight pull. I was with Pete Starley yesterday and he showed me one. Very nice too, and I am seriously considering buying one. Also were you aware that Pete Starley helped make the .30 cal available to shooters at Wedgnock Ranges,Warwick which only has permission for gallery/pistol calibres. He argued that the .30 carbine round was and is chambered for pistols. Warwickshire Constabulary apparently could'nt argue with this, so a small victory was won! Cool huh?
Ain't it a shame though that "black" guns like the AR15 are still seen as "evil" by the press and public alike? Education is a wonderful thing .......
chris hollebon
01 Mar 2009 at 08:40 PM