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BSA R-10

BSA R-10

The BSA SuperTEN pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) has been around since 1996, and was a good seller from the start. Early versions sported a semi-target stock, which although functional, was never going to win any beauty contests. Subsequent models had much improved woodwork and the Mk III was especially pleasing. The action remained the same though, after all; if it ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it! The 200cc buddy bottle provided plenty of shots in sub 12ft/lb format, and an impressive shot count at FAC levels too; this was due to the John Bowkett designed regulator (he has been a design consultant for BSA ever since). This relationship has been fruitful over the years, and the collaboration resulted in other PCPs - the Hornet, Spitfire, Ultra and Scorpion. When it was felt that the SuperTEN could do with a revamp, it was decided to go the whole hog and design something completely new instead.

Waste Not…

The R10 keeps a couple of SuperTEN features - the tried and tested hammer-forged barrel and the 200cc buddy bottle/air reservoir. The bolt-action mechanism from the Scorpion is the starting point of the design with its slick, bolas bolt effortlessly feeding pellets from the rotary, 10-shot magazine.

John Bowkett’s new regulator is the heart of the action; metering air into a separate firing chamber. Repositioning the reg lower makes the overall length of the action shorter, so bringing the weight backwards and thereby improving balance. In tests, the regulator proved consistent, which is obviously essential for the long-term reliability. The fill status can be monitored by an on-board, pressure gauge positioned in the bottom of the action. The buddy bottle is charged in situ using a probe that simply plugs into the port in front of the gauge. Charging a PCP doesn’t get much simpler than this!

The 12” tube sits in a full-length shroud and gives the R10 a pleasing, bull barrel appearance. Internal baffles make it a primary sound moderator; however the end cap can be removed to reveal a ½” UNF thread, allowing the fitting of a secondary moderator. Thanks to its regulator the R10 is frugal with air and is quiet enough for most hunting situations, but with BSA’s VC silencer in place, it gets really quite.

The trigger is an uprated version of the one fitted to BSA’s other PCPs, with a fully adjustable blade, so if you can’t get it in the right place, it’s your fault! The unit came factory-set for a very nice break, but you can tweak it to your heart’s desire should you wish. The release was just right for me, so I just got on with the shooting.

The safety catch is identical to the Scorpions which is positioned on the right of the action, below the bolt. This is not ideal, as the bolt’s ball can obstruct access. So this new R10 re-positioned it on the left making it much easier to use as it can be operated by the firing hand thumb.

You may be wondering what the black anodised device below the barrel does; well, nothing really, it just fills a gap! The serrations may look a bit like the back of Rambo’s knife, and I’m sure this little detail will be a like it or loathe it feature, even if it is a minor one.

Mix ‘n’ Match

The standard BSA magazine is used and is activated by the trigger mechanism; this ensures that the rifle cannot be double loaded. A ‘follow through’ as you pull the trigger trips the release mechanism, which rotates another pellet into position, ready for loading.

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The latest version has an alloy pellet carrier for enhanced reliability, but there’s also another feed option. As a new single shot adaptor can be slipped into the well instead of the drum. It consists of two parts held together by the pivot pin. One section is held stationary by the magazine retaining pin that slides in from the front of the breechblock. The other is retained by a spring-loaded ball, and with the bolt withdrawn; the pellet carrier can be swung down to the left rather like opening a revolver cylinder.

A pellet is placed in the feed hole and the carrier returned, closing the bolt chambers the pellet. This operation is quick and easy and a real boon for those that might compete in FT or HFT, as a multi-shot magazine must be removed between lanes for safety reasons. The adaptor can be left in place and seen to be empty when it’s open. It’s quick and easy to use should you not want the hassle of filling the mg every 10-shots… They are expected to be an optional extra and cost around £30.

Good Wood

The prototype stock you see here isn’t quite the same as the production version, but the overall lines are. It’s the work of Jon Sykes (Hydro Graphics), who designed the synthetic furniture for the Scorpion T10 and XL Tactical, and he’s certainly worked his magic again. BSA staff also had an input and this collaboration has obviously worked. The elegant lines flow back from the tip, through the slim, yet hand-filling forend, and into the pistol grip in a very pleasing sequence.

The pistol grip has a generous scallop for a ‘thumb up’ hold, but it can obviously be held in the conventional way. The roll over cheek piece aligns the eye perfectly with the scope and the adjustable butt pad can be altered for that individual fit. Grade II walnut will be used for all R10s and I can see the woodwork alone bringing plenty of shooters to gunshops in search of this new BSA. Final versions will feature rosewood grip and forend caps, as well as panels of chequering on the forend and grip.

One thing that won’t be reaching the shops however, is the facility to carry two spare magazines in the underside of the butt. The recesses have strong magnets in them that hold the steel outer bodies ready for use. The downside is that the cut-outs compromise the sleek line, even though it was a handy feature. The mags could also potentially drop free if the stock was handled roughly, and it would be possible for grit to enter the clips in dusty conditions. I and other testers thought this feature was dropped, which it will be on production guns. I prefer to keep spare magazines in a pellet pouch around my neck, so probably wouldn’t use this facility even if it were fitted.

Proof of the Pudding

So how does the whole package come together? Very tasty indeed, as it handles extremely well and balances nicely, even with a pretty large scope fitted. At just under 7lbs (8 ¼ lb scoped), it’s not a chore to carry, especially if a sling is used with the fitted QD studs.

I used the rifle in all manner of positions; bench rested, off a bipod etc., and it proved to be an enjoyable experience every time I took it out. Foul weather and lack of quarry meant that only a solitary feral pigeon met its maker courtesy of the R10, but I still put a lot of pellets through it on the range. The action never missed a beat, whether I was using a magazine or the single shot adaptor, and other who tried it liked it too. Over the chrono, the regulated action spat pellets out with boringly consistency, and it didn’t mind what it was fed. Crosman Accupells were its preferred diet, but this might be different with other examples. Accuracy was as you’d expect from one of BSA’s excellent barrels, with tiny spinners hit time and again at 50 yards.

This new model should be in the shops by the time you read this, and it will undoubtedly be very popular in the years to come. At around £650 it’s very good value for money and I reckon it’s destined to join the ranks of classic BSA air rifles.

Single-shot loading adapter £35
Spare 10 shot magazine £45.

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  • Model: BSA R-10
  • Manufacturer: BSA
  • Type: 10-shot buddy bottle precharged pneumatic
  • Action: Bolt-cocking, auto-loading
  • Calibre: .177 (4.5 mm.) on test and .22 (5.5 mm.) available
  • Magazine: 10-shot removable rotary magazine or optional single shot adaptor
  • Max fill pressure: 232 BAR (3,360 p.s.i.).
  • Shots per charge: 153 shots in .177 (tested), 200 in .22 (manufacturer’s claim)
  • Overall length: 930 mm (36.6”)
  • Barrel length: 308 mm (12.1”)
  • Shroud length: 414 mm (16.25”) inclusive of 185 mm, baffled sound diffuser.
  • Weight: 3.3 kg (7.25 lbs)
  • Stock: Grade Two walnut sporter.
  • Sights: No open sights. Action grooved for scope mount N/A.
  • Energy: 11+ ft/lbs. FAC version expected soon


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    17 Dec 2018 at 11:24 AM
  • Success, replacement magazine sent from BSA.
    Once I had made contact with BSA I found their service to be good.
    Alan Derbyshire

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    Alan Derbyshire
    29 Jul 2014 at 09:59 AM
  • Re my attempt to contact BSA Guns:
    No reply to my email so I telephoned the company.
    Both Technical and Reception were unavailable.
    So, I resorted to the tried and tested method of sending a letter.
    Within a day I received a email from BSA apologising for their failure to reply and advising me to send them the "faulty" magazine, this I have done.
    Now waiting (hopefully) for a replacement magazine.
    Alan Derbyshire

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    Alan Derbyshire
    11 Jul 2014 at 09:04 PM
  • I thought I would send an update with regards to my attempts to contact BSA via email.

    I sent three emails to Technical Support, with no reply forthcoming. I have now sent a further email and if they do not reply to this will telephone or send a letter.

    The "faulty" magazine I referred to in earlier posts has again started "playing up" with 8 out of the 10 pellets jamming.

    I note that if I push the pellet a little further into the magazine it loads without problem? Obviously this is not practical!

    Anyway, I hope BSA respond to my latest email.

    Alan Derbyshire

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    Alan Derbyshire
    03 Jul 2014 at 03:30 PM
  • Sorry,
    Failed to enter who the previous message re the magazine was from.
    Would welcome your comments.
    Alan Derbyshire

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    Alan Derbyshire
    26 Apr 2014 at 11:28 PM
  • Hello Troll Hunter,
    The magazine is the new type.
    After I posted on this site I went out and tried 50 shots using Bisley Magnums and RWS Superpoint, using two magazines.
    When using the "suspect" magazine I noted that the pellets loaded with a little resistance on only two loads, one with each type of pellet.

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    26 Apr 2014 at 06:31 PM
  • Hi Alan,

    Is the mag the newer type that rotates when the pellet is pushed through, or the older version with the little catch that is tripped by the action?

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    Troll Hunter
    26 Apr 2014 at 06:03 PM
  • I have a BSA R10 Mk2 .177 and am experiencing problems with the magazine.
    This is the second magazine that has caused problems with feeding, the first being replaced by BSA. It would appear that BSA have not yet resolved this problem?
    I have tried various makes of pellets and find that some suit better than others, Accupell seemingly to be the best. .
    I have emailed BSA Support twice and have yet to receive a reply, not good for customer relations. I have today sent a third email, hopefully I will receive a reply.
    I have no complaints as to the accuracy of the rifle which I find to be very good.
    Just a pity that a good rifle is dogged by the magazine problem!

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    Alan Derbyshire
    26 Apr 2014 at 04:29 PM
  • Accupells and Wasps are quite short pellets and this may be causing problems with them feeding from the magazine. I use Air Arms or other JSB made .22s in my BSA multishot rifles without problem. It might be worth giving these pellets a go if you've not already done so.

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    Troll Hunter
    07 Sep 2012 at 12:17 AM
  • I bought a second hand .22 Mark 1 R10. Soon experienced problems with 10 shot mag. When loading, the bolt often stuck halfway in and after some pressure it loaded the pellet (Webley Accupels). Fired OK but when the mag was removed the rubber O rings were shredded. The gunshop eventually replaced the mag with a brand new magazine but same trouble occurred. ?pellets twisting on entry to breech. Gunshop found that Wasp 5.6 mm pellets worked much better although it is difficult to load the mag without deforming the pellets. This may account for some wayward shots when grouping. Any suggestions please?

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    07 Sep 2012 at 12:06 AM
  • has anyone had the same problem that i have experienced with the scorpian t-10 i have had to send back to bsa the cylinder and barrel was loose i took it back to the gunsmiths and they said they couldnt have a look because it had an anti tampering devise so its had to go back.
    thanks for any advise

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    robert sanders
    27 Jun 2012 at 03:31 PM
  • Same as anything if you get a good un like I did you won't look back. I have both Air Arms F400 single shot in .177 and the BSA R10 mk2 in .22. Got to say i like the BSA better on most counts plus the finish is good too,

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    04 Jun 2012 at 10:17 PM
  • i had an air arms s510 c and hated it sold it bought an r10 and have never looked back best gun i have ever owned and iv owned a few

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    andrew cheeseman
    04 Jun 2012 at 06:51 PM
  • I am trying to choose between a Air Arms s510 FAC and a BSA R10 FAC, i like the look of the BSA over the Air Arms (currently have a s400 XTRA FAC) but after reading all these comments on the R10 i am really concerned over the seemingly inconsistent build quality are these rifles really that bad? i mean they currently are (in my opinion) the best looking rifle on the market today plus i believe that in FAC guise the R10 has a better shot per fill count. I cannot make up my mind S510 or R10?
    Can someone help!

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    Paul Mooney
    21 Feb 2012 at 12:27 AM
  • Bought one of these new BSA R10 MK2 in .22 a few weeks ago and my what a super bit of kit. I can not fault the gun in any way and with BSAs moderator fitted it's whisper quiet.

    I shouldered a few other rifles before making my choice including the Air Arms but the build quality, large buddy bottle and balance of the rifle was head and shoulders above the competition. Only wish it came with a spare mag which by the way is smooth and a joy to use.

    I paired the gun up with an HAWK AIR MAX 3-9-40 scope which sits nice and has superb optics even as dust approaches.

    Always had springers before taking the plunge to purchace this quality rifle, and I'm glad I did.

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    08 Feb 2012 at 03:56 PM
  • picked up a r10 mk2 18 1 2012 instant problems seemed to sound flat at times so it was cronoed what a shock fluctuations from 11.2 best it managed with superdome next shot 9.2, 10.7, 11, 9.7,8.2. and so on, reset the bottle dry fired to set reg made no difference still a bag of shit. what a shame nice looking gun but thats about it. having to wait for the shop owner to come back of holiday to get a refund. i also own a hw100s
    and only an idiot would try and compare them as quality, build, performance, feel puts the hw so far in the lead. realy gutted realy liked the look of the r10 fancy having a product perform so crap, bsa your a disgrace get your act together.

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    rick baker
    25 Jan 2012 at 08:05 PM
  • Hi, how much are second hand R10 going for? one of my friends is selling his, i am thinking of buying it. but not sure on how much to offer lol. i have an air arms S400, but have always wanted R10. they do look and by the sound of it out shoot and handle alot of other rifles.
    look forward to your replies.

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    Andy Yaxley
    03 Dec 2011 at 09:31 PM
  • I own a Scorpion and an Ultra that are pre Gamo and I have been absolutely delighted with them. I am so sad to hear that the build quality has gone down hill, in fact I feel it is a crying shame.
    I was considering an R10 but after reading these reviews I certainly will not be.
    Made in England used to mean quality and if you are listening B.S.A sort yourselves out before yet another great British company goes to the wall.

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    Steve Watsham
    26 Nov 2011 at 11:10 PM

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    08 Nov 2011 at 07:05 PM
  • I buy BSA R10 mk2 40dj, fill first time with 212 bar, after reloading 4 times it starting leaking the air after shot, so i have to pull the bolt to stop leaking, that to do is it of case of low preasure or it is some problems with what???

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    08 Nov 2011 at 12:10 AM
  • was in the process of purchasing the BSA r10 but after reading all the reports from fellow air gunners, that i must thank for there feed back.
    I have decided to go for another make.
    Hope someone from BSA reads the reports from this web page, and realises the loss in sales that there poor quality control are costing them dearly and the time it takes to repair the air rifles when returned to them.

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    maurice payne
    26 Oct 2011 at 11:46 PM
  • hi all just bought r10 mk2 only a week ago 60mm groups at 25 yards,goes from 10.2 flbs to 11.8 flbs after every other shot the magazine wobbles all over the place and the bolt some times sticks when loading pellet.Dont think bsa has sorted there selfs out quality wise as for a gun which cost £655 is poor now gone back to shop.

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    Andrew Horton
    16 Jun 2011 at 06:23 PM
  • I refer back to my earlier review of the BSA R-10 Mk 1 in .22, Feb 2010.
    Sadly, the gun lasted me three months before power loss and overnight leakage. I returned the gun to WSC, who immediately replaced it. So, I had a new rifle, this one lasted me a week before it would not fire!

    This was a great shame, because for looks and handling, both rifles were superb, and very accurate when working! Sadly, let down by the build quality.

    Enough was enough, and I took the R10 back for replacement. I stumped up the extra cash and got an FX Verminator, which to date has been faultless.

    I hope BSA take note that the bad quality control, really has cost them customers on what should be a really great rifle.

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    Michael K Owen
    02 Jun 2011 at 10:33 AM
  • Glad you got fast service from BSA - letplease keep us informed how you get on with the R10.

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    Pat Farey
    27 Mar 2011 at 12:00 PM

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    26 Mar 2011 at 09:09 PM
  • i have r10 mk2 and it has the same leaking problem as the mk1 the gun is at bsa for repair at the moment i hope they fix it as i love the gun it shoots and looks great.

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    21 Mar 2011 at 12:32 AM
  • There were initially some teething problems with the R10, but BSA seem to be sorting them.

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    Pat Farey
    21 Nov 2010 at 11:10 AM
  • Hi have been reading all your comments mostly negative but a few goo ones as well.
    Bought the R10 .177 (alond with the MTC Viper sight which is amazing) dispite all the bad reviews against the R10, only had it for two weeks but have been out with it 6 times and fired more than 1000 shots no faults as yet; shoots straight as a die evertime, no miss fires and holds it presure in the buddy bottle.
    All in all i would goive it 5 stars.

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    David McWhinnie
    19 Nov 2010 at 10:04 PM
  • seems a shame the r10 wasnt what i expected,poor workmanship,faulty regulators etc.....instead i purchased a theoben rapid mk1 custom,excellent rifle for the money.qaulity rifle.
    the bsa superten mk3 i owned was a great little rifle..shame they didnt improve it with the r10.looks a great little rifle for the cost.
    like an earlier post said,wait for the mk 2's..hopefully the ''teething'' problems will be sorted by then.
    i still havent given up on bsa...will get the r10 down the line even tho i own the rapid 7....roll on mk2.

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    rapid 7 owner
    12 Nov 2010 at 07:38 PM
  • Try contacting BSA. Their website is http://www.bsaguns.co.uk

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    Pat Farey
    26 Sep 2010 at 12:51 PM
  • were can i get a power tuning or blueprint instructions from for the r10

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    26 Sep 2010 at 12:52 AM
  • jerry i had the same problem , i only had mine for four days so it got swaped for the hw 100 ks and no problems to date (touch wood ) , the r 10 comes with a 12 month warranty , but id have thought they would renew it every time they fix it , but im not totaly sure on that , you wont go far wrong with the krout though,

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    Lee Brannan
    04 Sep 2010 at 04:03 PM


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    01 Sep 2010 at 04:18 AM
  • typical review....does not tell you the real problems with the rifle as always...

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    04 Aug 2010 at 09:05 PM
  • Well I’m not a happy camper. Got my R10 in June 09 and it’s been back in for repair twice. First time was after 3 months (pressure regulation was shot) - 3 weeks at BSA. This time after a massive loss in power it’s been back with them 3 weeks today and counting. 6 weeks of repairs in just over 12 months… NIGHTMARE. Love the gun when it’s working but if I could get my money back and go for an alternative I would. Anyone know how I sit legally on getting a refund? (It is still under warranty).

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    Midlands Jerry
    03 Aug 2010 at 02:56 PM
  • The BSA R10 was on my list of possible rifles to buy this year. In fact I was a popular AG store is offering a special price of $999 but after reading the problems with this new model from BSA I will not risk the investment until they get all the bugs worked out! This model has been out almost two years now and I dissapointed to learn of the ongoin problems. I would definately recommend the AA S400 / 410. I own three in the SL model and they are one heck of a rifle. The mag on my .22 works flawlessly and I'm surprised more companies haven't replicated this gem.

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    Bill Day
    18 Jul 2010 at 03:47 PM
  • ive asked 2 freinds who have R10s and they have had no probs what so ever ,, ive now had my hw100 3 weeks and can honestly say it warrants its pricewhat a gun , took out a rabbit at 85 paces the other day ( more good luck than good managment , and a bit irrisponible if im honest ) but it did it clean head shot too ,it was a calm morning and two dots up , i even filmed it for proof to me dad ( it wiped the floor with his 71 yrdr) but i still say the R10 is a thing of beauty, shame about the probs i had , ps everyone says the weihrauch is heavy , but its not as heavy as the R10 ,, both excelent guns though , cheers lads ,

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    Lee Brannan
    13 Jul 2010 at 10:58 PM
  • brought my beloved r-10 in feb 2010 and was very pleased with its performance. the overall build quality (in my eyes) was fantastic, the cocking action was smooth with no problems with the magazine, and the accurassy was pin point bang on.
    perfect ................... i think not! after roughly 4 months of faulttless action i noticed a leak in the quick fill port. at first it stopped within a couple of seconds after filling, but after a couple more weeks the gun began to loss pressure over night.
    It has now been with bsa nearly a month and still no sign of it coming back.
    i dont want to slag the r10 off, as it had served me 4months of fantastic shooting knocking bunnys, pigeons and squizzles over from 25 - 45 yards with no troubles, but i cant help but wondering if this sort of fault is happening now what is the rifle gonna be in the long term.
    Hopefully i will recieve my beloved soon and will update and inform you of the future performance..
    also as others have said i strongly recommend using AIR ARMS FEILD PELLETS, i havent really tried any other make but dont feel i need to with the consistancy and accuracy of these fine slugs

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    03 Jul 2010 at 08:20 PM
  • Just say no ! the R10 should have been a good pcp rifle but poor quality control or lack of has resulted in many many returns and faults and at £600 this should not be the case ! for another £125 i found the Weihrauch 100 k is in a totally different league for finish and reliability, BSA must improve on this poor standard or loose more customers ! we don`t want Gamo`s badged as BSA`s which is if you look at the internals what is happening to their springers.

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    26 Jun 2010 at 07:32 PM
  • The power went first pal and BSA told me to take off the bottle and put it back on (to reset the regulator apparantly) ive now done this four times and now its back on song . Im still swapping it though the trust has gone , even though the weihrauch is not as pretty it hasnt got a bad reveiw anywere. good luck with yours matey,

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    Lee Brannan
    20 Jun 2010 at 01:31 PM
  • That`s a shocker, I haven't taken the buddy bottle of and think I probably wont after your comments.

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    Les Jones
    20 Jun 2010 at 12:01 AM
  • scratch the last posting , this gun is PANTS the powers gone , ive taken off the buddy bottle n put it back on (as told to do so by bsa ) still nothing , im gunna stick in the extra cash and get a weihrauch 100 sporter, im absolutley gutted , this problems also the same on my dads ,, tut tut

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    Lee Brannan
    18 Jun 2010 at 12:55 PM
  • Picked up mine yesterday from Mooredges guns , ive fitted a butler creek sling and a Hogan decimeater modeator and i'm spitting air arms feild .177 . Took it out last night and got two coneys , the gun is near silent , sounding only like th click of a biro pen , now and again the bolt wont return a slight wiggle (technical term ) soon rectifies that and i can live with that ,accuracy is unparraleled , this is one mint gun I LOVE IT ,

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    Lee Brannan
    15 Jun 2010 at 11:54 AM
  • Hi and thank`s all, iv had a chance to get some rabbits, had Bunny Korma for tee and it was grate! The R10 knock them down riley good.
    Iv bin using Crosman premier ultra magnum, they seem to work quit well need to in-prove my aiming a little.
    The gun is still misfiring on shot No-10 will have a word with Tom at K.W.G when I get the chants but don't wont to be with out the R-10. Im very happy with the Gun and hope that any one out there who is thinking off getting one feels the same as me if they do get one,( happy )

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    Les Jones
    14 Jun 2010 at 09:36 PM
  • I get some money at the end of the month but couldnt wait so ive taken out a short term loan just to pay for my R 10 it was meant to be in the bank monday . Its now Wednesday so i rang and they said it will be in end of this week or begining of next . Back to the subject im so frustrated , i want my R10 NOW! . I also have a Weihrauch HW77 K and a mk 1 Rapid (pre 2007 ) I took out the 77k last night and came home with two coneys and a woody , As to your qestion Les I and my dad find air arms feild are the best lead to spit through the R10 also H&N feild are bob on the brand i would stay away from are the napier power pells , but saying that its horses for courses isnt it mate all guns are different (even if they are the same model) wish me luck my fellow airgunners and fingers crossed ill have it by saturday,, watch this place for my HAPPY update..

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    Lee Brannan
    09 Jun 2010 at 09:37 PM
  • AIR ARMS DIABOLO FIELD... Ive put a tin of these through the r10 on bunnys and targets.Its not missed an index and the action virtualy feels the same wether the mags empty or full. Tried some SMK pellets through it and i felt that i was destroying the action.BSA STORM seem to go well to.

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    08 Jun 2010 at 09:16 PM
  • Bought an R10 for myself and an Air Arms s410 carbine for my young lad last week and both work a dream. Having had the R10 a couple of days it discharged its air over night. Pickering guns exchanged it the next day even giving me a couple of tins of pellets for the hassle.The magazine works at its best with quality pellets, tried it with cheap pellets which feel like im forcing bricks into the breech. We wouldnt change them for anything else. Our webley eclipse will gather dust now...

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    08 Jun 2010 at 08:52 PM
  • Hi, Lee thank`s , I pick up the R10 Sat 5, It is a stunner L/H stock the bolt is L/H to with the safety on the R/H side, have charged it twice and only target`s so far, had a repeat misfire with shot No-10 but that seems to have cleared could be me rushing the bolt?? amazing how quickly you can get throw 10 shots. can any one recommender a rile good consistently acret pelt for this wonderful air rifle.

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    Les Jones
    06 Jun 2010 at 11:43 PM
  • My dad bought an R10 in march and had to send it back to BSA , not because of any of the problems listed above but the regulator seals were faulty. After this was sorted the rifle has shot like a dream taking rabbits out to 60 yrds , .I'm getting mine tomorow and will post any problems on here , fingers crossed hey, may i add though bsa's customer services are second to none ,, to my knowledge the R 10 is an absolutley awsome rifle ,,

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    Lee Brannan
    06 Jun 2010 at 09:46 PM
  • Hi, im waiting to pick-up a new R10, after reading all this I'm very worried.

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    Les Jones
    30 May 2010 at 11:44 PM
  • I have both the BSA R10 and the Air Arms S410 carbine. I must say I'm hard pushed to choose between the two. I haven't had any problem with the R10 although I have had an air leak with the S410 (but I'v e had it for longer than the R10). Perhaps the balance & bolt action of the S410 is more to my liking but once you've got the R10 trigger adjusted to your liking it is an astonishingly accurate gun. I think you also get more shots out of a full charge on the R10. Both are proper bunny bashers and I feel more confident about accurate headshots to pigeons and other birds from considerable distance with both guns. I go hunting with my son, if he is using the S410 then I want it. If he is using the R10 then I want that. Both are great guns. If you're not sure which to choose go and test fire both for an hour or so each. For the money you're paying your gun shop shouldn't begrudge you the time.

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    Michael Patterson
    17 May 2010 at 12:54 AM
  • having previously owned a 2nd hand .177 bsa ultra single shot which was superb,ultra light short barrel and great looks (it now lives with a friend as ive taken up firearms instead).it and had none of the problems you describe,it had great blueing and the action was anodised and not painted.and it was almost boringly consistent with 11.8 ftlbs and shot deviation was only around +- 6fps with rws r10 pellets.the trigger was great too about 2.5 pounds and very crisp,and it had a great looking stock.the only downside was small shot capacity.and great looking but inefective supressor.(not really major problems)
    however recently i was very disapointed when another good friend bought the multi shot bsa ultra T10 in .177 sythetic stocked version.
    the first thing i noticed was that the finish was poor and the action was sprayed,very unevenly.shiny in some places and matte on others.also for a synthetic stocked air rifle it did seem far too heavy,then on cocking i saw that the barrel and action moved on cocking,and within the first few shots the magazine began to misfeed to the point were it was almost useless and often put 2 pellets up the barrel.also i believe it was under powered,or had a slow leak.but didnt have a chronograph.
    i am sorely disapointed for my freind as he is disabled and therefore on a very tight budget and has limited mobility.he'd saved up and spent the best part of £700 on geting the gun and all the kit,only to be lumbered with this peice of junk.i doubt if he has the ability to or willingness to deal with sending it back and forth via an r.f.d,and thefore i suggested to him that he exchanges it,but being a moral guy he refuses to palm it off on some poor unsespecting soul.and he'd get very little in exchange i think.
    it seems that bsa have let standards slip,i remember having a bsa meteor in the 80s which was a completley apauling too it literaly fell apart in my hands within a couple of months.and i vowed never to go bsa again it seems i was right all along.

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    14 May 2010 at 02:46 PM
  • Thanks for keeping us informed. Sorry that you've still had no joy with your gun.

    I know it will be of little if any comfort to you, but we were using an R-10 owned by one of our writer's for a video shoot recently (which will be online soon) and it performed faultlessly. It just seems that some are good from the off, while others aren't.

    Needless to say, we hope your gun gets sorted quickly, and we appreciate you keeping us informed.

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    Pat Farey
    17 Apr 2010 at 02:09 AM
  • Received a call from the dealers today after waiting just under 3 weeks for the return of the r-10, advised over the phone that the magazine has been replaced, no problem there. Unfortunately not such good news for the other 3 problems, firstly the barrel shroud has been replaced but the dealer has spotted a fault with the replacement and is not happy with it so obviously I'm not going to be as I'm the one who has paid out my hard earned money! The squeal around the filling port when charging up with compressed air has not been sorted, according to BSA some of them do this and it is not considered a problem! Finally the slight rearward movement in the breach when pulling the bolt fully back is also deemed acceptable as again some of them do it, some don't!
    It's now back on it's way to BSA without me even seeing it, I suppose it will be gone for another few weeks. Looks like it was a bad move buying a BSA, what a shame.

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    David Roberts
    16 Apr 2010 at 11:27 PM
  • I would feel exactly the same as you if a new gun that I bought was as badly flawed. Please let us know when BSA get back to you, and how they resolve the problem.

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    pat farey
    11 Apr 2010 at 05:49 PM
  • Bought a new r-10 recently, immediately after getting it home I discovered multiple problems. Firstly I noticed the extremely poor finish of the blueing on the barrel shroud, I didn't spot it in the shop initially but as soon as sunlight shone on it it really showed up. Secondly the magazine does not index properly, it slips around, sometimes all the way from 10 to 1! Thirdly part of the breach moves back a fraction after pulling the bolt fully back ready to insert the magazine, of course this is then in the way stopping the magazine sliding into place so you have to pop it back forwards with your finger each time you want to insert the magazine. Last but not least the filling probe is not a very tight fit thus upon filling it squeals like a piglet due to the escaping high pressure air. All this and the gun has not yet fired a single shot! What sort of quality control is there at BSA? The gun was immediately sent back to BSA via the dealer, two weeks have gone by, still nothing! I'm not at all impressed and have lost all confidence in the r-10 and I've not even used it yet.

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    David Roberts
    11 Apr 2010 at 02:32 PM
  • Thor101

    Please let us know how long it takes to get your rifle back and whether the magazine problem is sorted or not.

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    Pat Farey
    04 Apr 2010 at 03:37 PM
  • Just got one and am having the magazine feeding problem, set it back to BSA not got it back yet.

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    04 Apr 2010 at 10:37 AM
  • Purchased a new R-10 in .22 today from Wilts Shooting Centre. Was able to, "try before you buy," using their excellent 25m indoor air-gun range. I mounted a Merlin 4-14x56 IR on the rifle and put a little "Sound Biter", moddy on board as well. Ammo was FX .22's. Rifle charged to 200bar for first fill. All was well, and within 7 shots, rifle was bang on the money & returned a ten shot 0.25" group at 25m. A later chrono showed very consistent running over a 10 shot test, with hardly any variation in velocity, and energy was the safe side of 11.5 ft lbs.

    Out in the field, rifle quickly despatched 3 grey squirrels,between 20-25m all very clean single shot kills. Action almost silent with no feed problems.

    All in all, this example seems to be fine, nicely finished with good wood and a straight shooter. Only time will tell if this one suffers the faults of the earlier version, but so far, I'm pretty chuffed with it.

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    Michael K.Owen
    24 Feb 2010 at 08:46 PM
  • Hi David, with all the R10 problems, would you reccommend buying one or what do you think to the Air Arms s410?

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    24 Feb 2010 at 12:56 AM
  • My thoughts and findings after owning a BSA R10, by David Stephenson :

    No sooner had I bought a new BSA R10 PCP air rifle I ran into and what has become a regular and most annoying problem with the rifle, on the very first magazine full of pellets I encountered pellet loading failure I will explain in detail here.

    The magazine was functioning correctly and cycling properly yet she failed on a number of occasions to index to the next pellet when it the breach, I also tried a number of different magazines from a friends BSA scorpion as well as my own and the same problem occured a blast of air and no pellet and no prise.

    Both of our guns have the same problem with play in between the magazine and the breach even when locked into place, too sloppy fitting and what is causing the failure to load another pellet, if you keep your thumb against the magazine whilst cocking the rifle the pellet does index and load, but this is not always possible especially if you are in the prone or an awkward position, in a hide etc.

    I have since read that this is not an isolated case and many other people have had the same magazine loading probelms, come on BSA get your finger out and sort the problem or it will only get worse ?.

    Other dissapointing observation on the R10 are:

    The front threads for the silencer are of poor grade aluminium where as on my other rifles they are steel, after repeated silencer removal these threads will wear away possibly resulting in a miss fitting/aligned silencer.

    Loading of the magazine is also cumbersome to say the least, the extra pull that's needed on the bolt results in most of the weight of the rifle being supported by the bolt itself, which deosn't fair well for long term wear in that area.

    The safety catch is very awkward and stiff to cycle without letting go from the aim and really needs to be better positioned on the opposite side.

    The shrouded barrel in my opinion is a waste of good time and money and serves no purpous as a silencer, the extra effort would have been better used in making the former observations better quality.

    The overall build quality of the gun is quite poor, the finish is terrible when compared to other similary priced products.

    The assembly and security of the whole superstructure is not up to heavy usage, the barrel and bottle breach can be easily flexed when the rifle is rested in the prone position, you can actually see the whole block and gap between the two move if any pressure is put onto these parts.

    The only plus for the many againsts is the superbly sculpted stock and the standard sling swivel security bolts, as BSA's flag ship of the fleet it is not what it should be.

    I have contacted BSA several days ago now who have not yet contacted me, if I don't get any joy I will simply trade the rifle in as it is, and let as many people know what we have encountered.

    I have owned many dozens of air rifle springers, gas ram and PCP over the years, I am an engineer by trade and have also worked as a military armourer in the past, so I do have a myriad of knowledge in this field, this matter if left unresolved will create BSA many problems in the future, you can bet your bottom dolar on that, remember my name and watch this space.

    The keyboard is mightier than the gun.

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    David Stephenson
    27 Jan 2010 at 01:52 PM
  • Hi Gary, Buy the R10! I just bought one and am absolutely delighted! As well as looking fabulous the gun seems to be reliable with a superb, trouble free action, it is powerful and very accurate with groupings the size of a 10p piece possible at 45m!! I have never fired such an accurate rifle, nor enjoyed shooting so much as I do with the R10

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    21 Oct 2009 at 10:32 AM
  • Well, after a 13year gap in shooting due to my wife and her moral stance! I'm taking the sport up again. Now that my wifes veiws have changed. ( at last!). Over the last 2weeks I have been reading up and phoning around and testing a few new guns. And my, how thing have moved on! I have managed to narrow it down to 3. The bsa R10,the HW100 and the mk2 rapid 7.the rapid is working out more expensive, so I was thinking hw or bsa I really love the look of the bsa, and all the features. I know the hw range is good because I still own a hw 80 an hw 77 and a hw 90, all great guns in there day. However I was being drawn to the BSA until I read these views! Now I'm a little disappointed and confused. What should I do? Still go for it in the hope all goes well, or go for the hw or the theoben now? HELP! Please give me some good news about the R10

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    gary harh
    11 Oct 2009 at 12:25 AM
  • Thanks for your comments jj - I was on the verge of buying an s410 but the R10 started to look very appealing (for the money), your words have made me reconsider..

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    07 Aug 2009 at 12:18 AM
  • Keep away from these till atleast the mk2 version comes out and if you want to know why google bsaog.co.uk and check the r10 section,lightnings seem to be having big problems too and bsas customer service is not what it use to be which is a shame.
    All bsa springers parts are now made in spain too?
    not exactly a hole new rifle is it?
    I mean how much do they think they can milk the super sport and hornet action by adding tiny things?
    Blue is not what it use to be nore is build quality and thats coming from me who is a dedicated bsa owner that owns nothing else,not for long I may add.

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    24 Jun 2009 at 04:20 AM